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Schools and Covid 19 (part 5) **Mod warnings in OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Both myself and my husband got covid at the beginning of January and our 2 (unvaccinated) primary aged kids didn't catch it from us inspite of us not isolating from them. For all we know they could have had it before.


    I really hope mask wearing is ended in schools at the end of the month. I can go out and spend the night on close contact with hundreds of strangers in the pub buy kids still have to wear masks in schools. It just doesn't make sense anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭DSN


    Or worse you "supposed" to leave any child up to age 15 at home for 7 days if a household contact even when not a thing wrong with them. Even the ones that went & got vaccinated it's completely ridiculous.

    When will they get rid of this restriction on kids?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,787 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    @political analyst

    But respiratory viruses become less likely to cause serious harm every time they mutate.

    Mutations are random. Some will produce an organism thatis more successful, some will produce an organism that is less successful. The more successful will prevail over time. Whether that mutation is more or less likely to case serious harm is random.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    My daughter tested positive last Thursday, we only tested her as a child in her class was positive and then a family member was also positive. She hasn't had a single symptom.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,162 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    I've twins both in the same class, back to school today after covid. My son was sick my daughter had no symptoms. Out of 28 in the class 7 were in this day last week, the rest out sick with a virus doing the rounds, worse than covid. Or they had covid. I know of 14 in their class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    It's fascinating how the news cycle changes.

    The talk of teacher shortages due to covid absences has disappeared. Not a peep of it now. All about inflation at the moment, even housing has taken a back seat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Students being absent made a bit of Claire Byrne yesterday alright. As bad now as it has been at any point over last 2 years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Teacher2020


    In fairness, it is not a direct comparison. Socialising in a pub or club is a choice. Only people who are not worried about COVID will do it and it optional whether you go or not. School is essential and some children there may be vulnerable if they catch COVID - the masks are needed until every child who wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated. I understand why they are needed currently but I cannot wait for them to be gone myself and hoping we get to lift school restrictions at the end of the month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    My daughter aged 10 tested positive a week ago. Most likey was primart school where she picked it up. She had one jab got and was due her second last weekend. She developed a few aches and pains so thats why we tested her.

    Since then, myself and Mrs Bloggs along with my 8 year old have tested positive.

    Its funny that when people worried about such things, Norma Foley would not have attributed the 3 subsequent infections to school transmission, yet that is what ultimately brought covid inside my front door.

    Thankfully apart from coughs and colds no other symptoms. The 8 year old has had one jab, while both myself and Mrs. Bloggs are boosted. As someone who is a lottle overweight and has high blood pressure I'm glad the symptoms have been mild.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    Otherwise known as Omicron. Time for people to move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    What’s the story with teachers on Twitter obsessed with keeping masks in schools? I’m a teacher myself and can’t wait to get rid of it.

    Some seem obsessed with keeping them and any mention of getting rid of them is selfish, etc. **** lunatics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Random sample


    There seems to be a campaign in this direction on the radio this week too. I thought we were all dying to get rid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    Seems like its the teachers unions mainly wanting to keep masks etc. There's nothing that crowd won't try to leverage, you heard them crying about schools reopening in January. That John Boyle of the INTO in particular is a doozey.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    The union don't speak on my behalf anyway. Or many teachers in my school. Everyone wants them off!!! The union is very out of touch with most of its members!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Random sample


    They are in touch with the members who contact them on an issue. Have you contacted them?


    If masks stay it will be on Tony holahan’s say so, not the unions.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    INTO not wanting any Covid theatre, sorry protection, measures lifted for at least 2 months. 2 months, ffs.

    Too long we’ve let dinosaurs like Boyle and the head honchos rule the union the way they want and pander to the loud, vociferous minority who try to push misery on schools. I don’t know any teacher who wants this BS kept for another day, let alone 2 months. Leave the profession if you’re scared of a child without a mask IMO.

    I will be giving up my membership, I do hope people vote with their feet with regard to the unions, it’s the only thing that they listen to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Great news. Hopefully the government and NPHET do stand firm and not listen to the whining from ISAG and their supporters at the head of our unions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    I cannot wait for the day I can go into work and teach students without a mask. Too long have they not been able to read my facial expression when joking or serious, etc.

    There will still be teachers who will wear them but I don’t envisage it will last long. Students will abandon them and most of staff. Looking at peers getting on nudist fine without one will be enough to turn the rest.

    A real sign the pandemic is over. Glorious. Even sweeter if it goes against what the unions want. I actually hate my union. I’ve disagreed with most of what the ASTI have been calling for for the past few years. Do not represent me at all.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Even Aodhan O Riordain of Labour commenting on the mask thing that society has moved on but schools are being treated differently and that Covid has dominated the school agenda.

    I agree fully. Good article too in the times this morning too about how the fun has essentially been sucked out of schools. I sense the tide is turning and sense will be seen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Instead of whinging to the press, why don't parents who are against the idea of their children being compelled to wear masks in class take the matter up with the principals or the boards of management? After all, parents are represented on the boards - I'm not saying that it gives parents a veto but it does mean that school authorities must consider parents' views.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭josip


    "All communication, that is not specific to an individual child, should be communicated to the Class Reps who will raise it with the school principal during the monthly meeting. Parents should not contact the teacher or principal directly regarding general issues."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Presumably, that means that the parents of a particular child can contact the teacher or principal about that child. Parents of different children can make a general inquiry as a group, can't they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    He's on Prime time just now and very much in favour of masks staying in schools and saying that the poor vaccination roll out in children is why they should stay.


    I assume to the roll out has been so poor is because a lot of parents are choosing not to vaccinate their children.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fair point, but a few points against it.

    There was a small movement from the national primary parents council against it at the start. All concerns were labelled as far right / anti vaccine.

    Secondly, none of it is in the hands of school authorities (in primary anyway). Thankfully, they can’t do anything more than advise masks. The problem I see is so many parents who are following what they are told because they feel they have to, to fit in, to confirm, to stop them being labelled as all sorts.

    I’ve seen it myself. Since restrictions were practically ended, masks in our school dropped off massively. I’d say less than half our kids have them at any one time. The rest seem to be just waiting to be told they don’t have to wear them. Unscientific, but I’d hazard a guess that if the government gave the ok tonight to end masks in school, there wouldn’t be one staff member or child in ours wearing them tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭glack


    I agree with the sentiments here, I hate the kids in primary schools having to wear masks and can’t wait until they are gone. In my school, they are working though (far, far more cases from juniors to second than in senior classes) so removing masks will have an impact. Our only worry is staffing, a lot of the junior end teachers and SNAs have already had covid since the beginning of December, the senior end staff have not. My concern is if the covid numbers in schools go up after the removal of mask wearing, we’ll really struggle for staff. Has been impossible over the past 2 weeks to get substitutes in our area.


    now it obviously has to happen at some point (and hopefully soon!), but I do think the general a public is a bit oblivious to the reality of what that will mean for their child’s class/teacher.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Obviously, such 'labelling' would be bullying and so teachers will deal with it appropriately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Birdy


    I think many children will continue to wear masks in class. It is an easy way to keep themselves safe. I know many teachers will continue to wear them too.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    1 of my 23 kids wore one today. And that 1 took it off for at least 1 hour in the classroom - pointless. Of the other class I supervised on yard, 1 of 20 odd had one coming back in.

    They’re already gone except for the optics in some places. They’ll be dropped like a hot potato.



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