When's calving starting 2022

No problem with antibiotics, can’t give steroids in advanced pregnancy afaik.

I wouldn’t put anything else only Saler bulls on heifers, i wouldn’t be a fan of them calving at two years old either, it’s great when it works out but i tried it and found it hit and miss, some heifers grew on well after it but others stayed too small after, it was too hard on them. I looked at two Saler x Lim bullocks off heifers i sold to a neighbour last September the other day, they didn’t look out of place with ten yellow Charolais he bred him self. He’s very impressed with them. Was watching Carnaross on Monday, saw a Saler x Lim bullock 700kgs make €1800, they make great cows for margainal land too. I’m going to ring the Saler society now to see if i can get paid for this🤔🤔

What happened exactly? Was the heifer lying down when you were pulling? I've experienced the death roar here before but I managed to resuscitate the calf. It walked in circles for days but came right eventually.

I remember Doreen Corridan of NCBC saying that the calf can't breath when you are pulling, so give it a break to let it breath. If it's hanging off the cow with cow standing and caught at hips then maybe that's why it can't breath.

Ya, it's hard to know what to do at times.

I would be having palpitations if the calving jack wasn’t here. I currently have two even if one of them is old and slightly worn it’s there as back up.

any Marco calves I’ve had here have been exceptionally easy calved. Is your heifer wide enough of the pelvis? I had a run of torture here with curaheen apostle heifers that all looked the part but wouldn’t calve a mouse. The last calf I had to get cheese wired ( a good few years back) was a limo on a si apostle heifer that was first calving at 700kg.

Aside from the calving, while it’s unfortunate you lost the calf a farmer once told me,”that if I couldn’t accept a loss every now and then, that I shouldn’t be at sucklers.” It was harsh but it’s all part of it.

Agree with you, would you try the AA now with bonus increasing?

Look at 20:47 where Doreen talks about the calf not being able to breath, when you are pulling the calf.

I dunno, hadn’t thought about them, how much is the Angus bonus now? It’s interesting to see what quality Angus cattle are making in the marts, will it last tho, had lots of them here years ago, they’d get mud fat on fresh air, no need for expensive meal with them anyway. Think i’ll stick with trying to produce good yellow and red cattle for now. Won’t change from Salers on heifers. Would you try any AA?

I find them grand, no different that the Lims, Sims or Charolais cattle i have here. The Salers here are mostly off Highfield Odran and Knottown Roy, good docility off those bulls anyway.

I’d use a Saler, great comfort at calving time with them, most people would use a Lim i suppose. Which company is your Ai tech with?

I’ve never dealt with them, best talk to your technician.

Do many of you use calf jackets for new born calves when in the shed? Any real benefits?

Seem a member on f4f said they thought it was a good job. Probably depends on how big and airy your shed is. But if it keeps a chill of them then would be a good idea.

Handiest calf this year just born. A good size ch heifer of a pb lm cow born onto the slats. I just switched on the cameras and there she was . If they all came that handy I’d be happy.

Put a few on DD earlier, phone was off the hook. Wish I had 100 of them, lovely looking calf

Can you get some cmr from a local farmer instead of buying a full bag. Pasteurised milk has the fat removed and I doubt it will add to the calf.

I have some milk replacer here from last year. I'll give her 2 lts of that later. I was walking by the shed a while ago and the calf was up standing on her own so that's a good sign. She's a huge calf and considering what's she's been tru she might just pull tru.

I had to google cmr by the way.😀