What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

14-02-2022 03:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118626094#Comment_118626094

I can’t wait to see some prosecutions. 4 years of lies hopefully everyone involved will get what they deserve. 4 years of gaslighting and now the best argument they have is ‘don’t trust the special prosecutor who everyone trusted when he was appointed’.

extra gravy · 14-02-2022 04:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118627524#Comment_118627524

Ha the only people that trusted a man appointed by the most corrupt AG in US history were deluded Donnie supporters. The whole thing is a farce and it's funny to see the usual suspects getting excited over nothing. "Bigger than Watergate" apparently 😂😂

Can't wait for the prosecutions too, unfortunately for you they won't be the ones you're desperate for.

14-02-2022 05:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118627552#Comment_118627552

Only grasping at straws. I suppose job done if we’re talking about someone’s integrity rather than the merits of the case.

“Durham is a career prosecutor who was nominated for his post as U.S. attorney in Connecticut by Trump. He has previously investigated law enforcement corruption, the destruction of CIA videotapes and the Boston FBI office’s relationship with mobsters.

Durham was unanimously confirmed by the Senate in 2018. At the time, Connecticut’s two Democratic senators, Richard Blumenthal and Chris Murphy, called Durham a “fierce, fair prosecutor” who knows how to try tough cases.”

Associated Press

It would not have been in Barr or Trump’s best interest to nominate someone who was going to lie to cheat in some way. Their best interests were served by appointing somebody fair and impartial.

arthursway · 14-02-2022 05:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118627524#Comment_118627524

It's a bombshell of a revelation.

To be spying on a sitting president while at the same time accusing said president of being a Russian agent?

Washington truly is a swamp.

To then project itself as the Bastian of democracy to the world would make one shudder.

At the very very least it's the end of Clintons in Washington.

everlast75 · 14-02-2022 08:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118627582#Comment_118627582

"It would not have been in Barr or Trump’s best interest to nominate someone who was going to lie to cheat in some way. Their best interests were served by appointing somebody fair and impartial."

One of the funniest posts I've read here in quite some time.

Kudos!

14-02-2022 08:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118626187#Comment_118626187

Why do people even mention this? All that matters is who wins the presidency, the popular vote is completely irrelevant.

I say this as someone that detests Trump and all he stands for.

generic_throwaway · 14-02-2022 08:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118627100#Comment_118627100

An impeachment that gets to a vote in the senate is like a torpedo strike under the water. Even if it doesn't sink you, it makes you a lame duck. See Bill Clinton.

generic_throwaway · 14-02-2022 09:04AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118627583#Comment_118627583

So claims are revelations now? Interesting. Or is it only claims coming from Honest Donald Trump's side?

salmocab · 14-02-2022 09:13AM

He would still be president if that thing that happened hadn’t happened. That’s where some people are at, so effectively he handled something badly then people in some sort of craziness judged him on those actions and now some of his supporters are making out like that was just unlucky instead of ineptitude.

everlast75 · 14-02-2022 10:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118627678#Comment_118627678

"Why do people even mention this? All that matters is who wins the presidency, the popular vote is completely irrelevant."

Because he constantly bleats on about how everyone loves him and that he was the most popular president ever.

Faugheen · 14-02-2022 01:22PM

If Trump had followed public health advice he would have won, I think.

Instead, he made the pandemic all about himself and wanted people to believe that he knew more than the public health doctors and would end the pandemic all by himself. All because he can’t handle the idea that someone knows more than him.

’Stable genius’.

It backfired, and the independents left him as a result.

PropJoe10 · 14-02-2022 01:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118627100#Comment_118627100

He didn't beat two impeachments. He was impeached twice. The only reason he wasn't removed from office is because a) there's a higher % required in the Senate to remove a president and b) the Republican Party is comprised of utter cowards, that have sold out every principle they ever stood for as a party.

Quin_Dub · 14-02-2022 02:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118628739#Comment_118628739

It's even worse than that - He deliberately downplayed it and we now know that he (via Kushner) also deliberately withheld support from "Blue" states because he thought he could blame the failings on "Incompetent Democrat Governors" etc. which he felt would be good for him Electorally.

He actively worked to risk/sacrifice the lives of US citizens in order to help his re-election campaign and yet some people still think he's worthy of support??

Beyond baffling.

Tell me how · 14-02-2022 03:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118627678#Comment_118627678

Because in any conversation about politics the concept of democracy is very relevant to consider and fair to point out that most of the people who voted in those elections did not want him to be President.

No one is disputing that he was rightly inaugurated as President in 2017.

And if he had gained just a couple extra 100K votes in key states in 2020, he'd have been returned as President despite close to 7M of the 137M odd that voted wanting that to happen.

The electoral system is long established, and there for a reason, but it's neither pedantic or irrelevant to point out the scenario it can create.

everlast75 · 14-02-2022 03:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118628973#Comment_118628973

Any calls for personal responsibility from him mean his defenders break out the excuses.

He was advised, he chose not to follow that advice, he suffered the consequences.

There is no wiggle room for anyone else to be blamed, be it the MSM, cancel culture, the "do nothing Dems". He alone is responsible and it is one of the many reasons why he should never have been president, nevermind re-elected.

Cody montana · 14-02-2022 04:22PM

Mitch McConnell has told Republican colleagues he DOESN'T fear Trump's influence in the midterms and will battle to stop 'goofballs' being elected for the GOP

Bit late for that.

extra gravy · 14-02-2022 04:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118629650#Comment_118629650

"A sitting President was spied on"

Please present your evidence. Accusations and "revelations" aren't evidence btw.

14-02-2022 04:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118630024#Comment_118630024

Durham report. That’s what we were talking about.

Igotadose · 14-02-2022 04:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118630104#Comment_118630104

The indictment Durham is seeking, is it part of the long-running (2.5 years and counting) report? I don't think it is. But, feel free to link to the report source or your source for the statement you made - that the investigation into Russian election interference (well established, several convictions) and the origins of the investigation (Durham's report) yielded this most recent filing by Durham?

extra gravy · 14-02-2022 04:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118630104#Comment_118630104

Please link to the "report" and the specific evidence that the sitting President was spied upon, as you claim.

14-02-2022 04:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118630140#Comment_118630140

He’s seeking those indictments because he has uncovered evidence. His initial charge of ‘Special counsel to review origins of Trump-Russia investigation’ upgraded in Oct 19 to ‘Investigation into origins of FBI investigation "Crossfire Hurricane”’ and it was now a criminal probe.

Sussman and Steele I believe have already been indicted with probably a lot more to come. He already unearthed the mess behind the Steele dossier.

14-02-2022 04:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118630173#Comment_118630173

Durham is claiming that. You put it in quotation marks because you don’t believe it exists or what?

extra gravy · 14-02-2022 04:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118630187#Comment_118630187

So just claims and no proven evidence. Thanks for clearing that up.

everlast75 · 14-02-2022 05:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118630187#Comment_118630187

Durham makes claims in clearly what is a politically motivated investigation with a pre-formed conclusion - fanfare.

Trump lifts 14 plus boxes of sensitive confidential documents from the WH - crickets

arthursway · 14-02-2022 05:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118629549#Comment_118629549

Well said.

Igotadose · 14-02-2022 05:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118630184#Comment_118630184

But there still isn't a report, is there?

Quin_Dub · 14-02-2022 06:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118630518#Comment_118630518

And - Durham has been at this for 18 months and it's only in the last few days we get these "revelations" conveniently timed to draw attention away from multiple reports of Major security breaches by Trump himself and his extended team.

We've had multiple claims of "blockbuster evidence" from the Durham investigations and so far all of them have amounted to absolutely nothing.

So far he's managed a grand total of two indictments.

One for Michael Sussman for mispresenting "the capacity in which he was providing allegations to the FBI" - It is very important to note that Durham is not claiming that the information he provided was wrong at all , just that he failed to declare that he was employed by a legal firm that also worked for the Clinton Campaign. Sussman has pled not guilty to the charge which according to him is based on a single statement “allegedly made five years ago to a single witness that is unrecorded and unobserved by anyone else.”

The second indictment is for Igor Danchenko , the claim here is that he lied about the source of the information he provided to the FBI. Again , Durham is NOT claiming that the information was incorrect , merely that Danchenko had not told the truth about the how and where of his obtaining the information.

Not exactly "Bigger than Watergate" now is it...

Let's see what he actually gets vs. what he claims to be looking for first.