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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    I don't understand the showing we are doing something thing you are saying? I mean if everyone in the shop is wearing a mask it will reduce the spread no?

    The workers in pubs and clubs are still wearing then too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    It won’t reduce the spread!! It won’t! Like I said it doesn’t matter twiddly squat if I head out on a work party after work to the pub next door and we don’t have to wear masks and have as many as we want at a table! Explain that to me? Don’t mind the old people can go to the shop but won’t go to the pub. The few people that don’t wear masks in my place of work are the older generation customers. And like a lot of people said here before there’s a lot of people that don’t wear them correctly or have ones weeks old etc! It’s tiring. You’d know how it feels to have to wear one for 45 hours a week? It’s a **** pain!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    The pub workers one is stupid as well, the chef isn’t customer facing so he doesn’t have to wear a mask…. Go **** figure that one out. He/she isn’t but the waiter is. It’s a joke



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There has never really been any proper scientific evidence that masks do anything. I mean, we had well over 20K cases daily with them.

    Reducing the spread really doesn't matter anymore either. We need to move away from that mindset.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    You wear a mask to protect others . In a shop or heathcare setting you are more likely to encounter the elderly or vulnerable

    They are less likely to be in a pub or at least have a choice but they need to go to shops or chemist etc

    Yes its a pain as it is for health care workers also but it is what it is

    Personally I wear mine to protect others and will probably continue to do so while they are at risk



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    You're asking why you don't have to wear it in the pub but do in the shop. I explained why that might be above.

    If you are saying masks don't reduce spread then they are pointless anywhere anytime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,228 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I have to say the atmosphere in the pubs in Galway over the past few weekends has been electric. Packed and everyone in good form. Not many people wearing masks either which makes it feel very normal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cork2021




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Is this thread still going?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    If I wear a mask forever why on earth would that bother you ?

    Hopefully I wont need to as risk lessens but I will wear what I like when I like

    I wont be asking you to so why is that bothering you ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    I wear one for over 40 hours a week. You probably wear one for 10 mins a day! Sick of it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I wore them for 12 hours a day when I was a nurse .There you are



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    goodstuff! And it’s hard to keep found that going on two years for me and I don’t know how long for you! You can’t say you’ll continuously wear one while people at risk, people were at risk of flu, colds, mrsa, rsv this day two years ago and the majority of the population never gave a second thought to wearing a mask! That’s my point!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,625 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    There has, you've been shown it multiple times so you're just constantly lying at this stage to try and preserve some credibility after 2 years of getting things wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,538 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    I don't know how this is even an argument.

    When they become advisory rather than mandatory, if someone wants to wear one then who cares, likewise if someone doesn't want to wear one, grand. It'll be a personal choice, feck all to do with me or you. Let people make their own minds up. I don't know why you seem to get argumentative when someone says they'll probably still wear one, that's their choice.

    Likewise the article you linked earlier, MM says he'll probably wear one in certain settings but that the overall discussion will be personal choice, that's grand, if he wants to wear one in the shops I couldn't care less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Ah but my argument is not about you wanting to wear one or not, it’s how businesses will take the advice! I’ll more then likely be made wear one as is the case in England retailers advising stores and customers to wear them, the likelihood is that the stores will enforce it on staff as it can become policy whereas general population you can’t stop them wearing one or not!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,538 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Well you never said that's what it was about.

    Take that up with your employer so instead if having a go at someone who says they'll wear one like you did with iamwhoiam when you questioned why they'd wear one. It's none of my business nor yours what they're personal choice is or the reasoning behind it.

    If your workplace differs from what's regulation in the state take that up with them through whatever internal mechanism you have



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    You can’t just go to an employer when it could and probably will become policy within a whole group. Ie Musgraves, Tesco, Dunne’s! You’d want all of the staff in those stores to make an issue of it and in reality is won’t happen. Public opinion if a store goes rogue and says no masks will never be worth the negative press the store/stores might get.

    you see where I’m coming from??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Not to rehash the many comments here that covered much of that territory already, but the scientific evidence has more than proven that the use of face masks does help to reduce the risk of infection

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-what-does-the-science-actually-say-about-face-masks-12349337

    And yes the advise on the use of face mask did change when it was proven that Covid mainly spread through respiratory droplets which can remain airborne for considerable periods of time.

    But really not sure why you're blaming "20,000 cases" solely on masks?

    It is known that Face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as getting vaccinated, frequent hand-washing and physical distancing, can help slow the spread of the virus.

    It is also known that Omicrom is between 2 and 4 times more infectious than previous variants but like other variants is easily spread in domestic environments such as peoples homes. And in homes over the Christmas period - Omicrom was going to gain ground especially where masks were not been worn.

    Required mask wearing is due to be removed shortly. Will some people continue to wear masks, wash their hands and maintain some type of social distancing in certain situations due to health concerns at least in the short term? Probably. But its not something I'm going to get upset with tbh.



  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don’t get this ‘I’m going to wear a mask to protect the vulnerable’ attitude. If you subscribe to this, then surely that’s forever? The vulnerable never won’t be vulnerable.

    All for letting people wear masks if it’s their personal choice. But it needs to be taken out of government/health authorities/businesses hands - it shouldn’t be compulsory any more for those who dont. Like we’re forcing them upon children ffs to protect vulnerable people who are always going to be vulnerable? When does it end?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    When does it end? February 28th.

    But question: How many global pandemics have you been in previously? Masks were not just worn to protect the vulnerable. They were advised to be worn to help reduce infection across the board. That included essential health professionals and others in the front line who were especially at risk from contacting covid. And remember masks were just one facet of infection control to be used alongside handwashing, vaccination and social distancing.

    Hopefully we're on our way out of the pandemic. And I'd guess some people may chose to wear facemasks after that point. Doesn't bother me in the slightest tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Thank you . I just wasn’t really arsed arguing but you put it well ! I have no idea why it should bother anyone if I wear a mask as I see fit . Sure if I wear three its still not bothering anyone else !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,416 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


     in England retailers advising stores and customers to wear them

    But isn't this only because we're still in what is hopefully the tail end of the pandemic? I mean if they were still 'advising' that after covid has gone away then you'd have a serious point.



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    So in a pub why do the barmen have to wear one? To "protect" the customers, who chose to go in, and aren't wearing masks themselves? It makes no sense. Even if for self protection, then it should be optional for the staff. If customers choose to go into an unmasked environment, staff shouldn't have to wear one too unless they want to no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I agree with you actually but I didn’t make the rules



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Great you should be entitled to wear whatever you want. Same goes for everyone.

    If you want to wear a mask or 5 masks then fine.

    If you don’t want to wear a mask then fine.

    I can’t believe people are still pushing masks on others. And I’m not saying you in particular are. Time for people to decide themselves what they should or should t be doing. Enough nanny state nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,350 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    i am pushing them on no one . I said I would consider wearing them if I see a need . I am asking no one else to do so

    I agree with you its should be a choice once this wave lessens and we see numbers dropping



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,055 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    As has been the case throughout, wearing a mask in the pub and the shop is safer than wearing a mask in only one of them.

    People take umbrage at being asked to wear a mask, so the compromise is to wear them just in shops. Less safe than masks in both, more safe than masks in neither. Yes, it can seem almost arbitrary, but that's how an easing out of it was going to have to happen. Unless, say, you'd prefer masks everywhere Monday-Thursday, and none aside from that, or somesuch.

    And if all restrictions were to be just lifted immediately, you'd still have people bellyaching that if it's deemed safe to lift restrictions today, then they should have been lifted yesterday, otherwise it's illogical 🙄



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