Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

581 in hospital now. Two weeks ago it was nearly 900.

With it being so prevalent in the community right now there is probably a floor on how low the numbers in hospitals go. They might stabilise at some point instead of drop. Some procedures can be postponed if you test positive pre admission to hospital, but in the likes of maternity hospitals you can’t postpone the admission so they will always be in the numbers.

There was a figure of circa 650 people with no underlying conditions that died with covid- the average age was 82.

The deaths/excess deaths will be debated for years to come. I don't believe that underlying conditions come into it, we live in an era where only 12% of US adults are considered metabolically healthy, I'd guess we're not far behind. Age & obesity seem to have been the 2 main determinants for poor outcomes.

I posted the FT stats here earlier i the week from the UK. Omicron is currently running at twice as deadly as seasonal flu in the over 50s yet is 3 times as transmissible.

There will surely be tribunals in years to come but we already know when the ball was dropped. Moving staff into the nursing homes without heavy testing early days, the meaningful Christmas & then not opening more last summer. The cost benefit will never be undertaken, how many of those who died with an average age of 84 would have seen another summer & was the 30 billion in debt dumped on the working generations justifiable. It's a conversation that will never be had.

I see Orla Hegarty is still having her daily meltdowns on Twitter!!

Nope

Where did I say I was complaining? I actually enjoy reading her tweets

Lockdowns were a response based on fear and hysteria.

It was an emotional response as opposed to a data based repsonse.

Lives were lost, lockdowns didn't save any

Although the Vital Stats annual report 2020 won't be out until end 2022, let's have a look at Vital Stats Yearly Summary 2020

Deaths due to COVID:

COVID-19 Virus Identified and Virus Unidentified:

There were 1,672 registered deaths where COVID-19 was assigned as the underlying cause of death in 2020. There were a further 167 mortality records where there was a mention of COVID-19 in the narrative of the death certificate and where the underlying cause of death was not COVID-19.  A new information note is available outlining how the CSO assigns COVID-19 as the underlying cause of death.

So the figure is 1,672.

Let us compare that to the HSE figures = 2,299

So the difference is 627, quite substantial.

It is a scandal that we are not using this phase of low hospital admissions to fast track introduction of hepafilters or equivalent measures in schools and workplaces.

What I’ve noticed since the start of the pandemic is the confusion that basic numbers seem to cause people in general. Given that this disease impacts people that are largely in quiet close to end of life (in general), to not factor this into an excess death analysis makes very little sense.

When RTE did their little street interviews in the last 6 months, about 90% of the people they cherry-picked randomly asked in the street would always say that they would refuse to eat in a resturant if they didn't either check their covid cert and even check their ID too. I also noticed quite a few boards posters who shared similar extreme views.

What is the story with this now that the restrictions have been lifted? Are people furious that they now have to share the same air-space with ANtiVaxrs and such?