Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

Wibbs · 26-01-2022 06:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118534467#Comment_118534467

So to recap; We have the PP

We have the AP

We have the GP

And now the new Zenith Defy

I wonder which other brand will jump on this current trend from the 1970's.

Cyrus · 26-01-2022 06:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118536681#Comment_118536681

The Piaget Polo and VC Overseas can be added i guess, are IWC doing that kind of ingy at the moment?

micks_address · 26-01-2022 06:38PM

There's a tissot waffle dial as well right? PRX 80 i think?

micks_address · 26-01-2022 06:39PM

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Wibbs · 26-01-2022 07:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118536712#Comment_118536712

In my humble the VC and the AP get a pass.The AP for being the one that started this current trend and one of the nicest of the bunch and the VC because although it shares the DNA of the luxiry steel sports looks different in the hand. I mean the Bulgari Octo is a luxury steel sports job and a recent one, but different enough to stand out.

Wibbs · 26-01-2022 07:28PM

Though at least this current trend isn't brand specific. There's a few out there. Like when pilots watches were the thing for a brief time about 15 years ago. When Panerai were the flavour de jour it was essentially just them or homages.

893bet · 26-01-2022 07:52PM

VC abandoned the textured dial for the latest Gen of the overseas (Gen3). Gen 2 has the textured dial on most of the models.

A Lange jumped on the integrated sports watch trend a few years back, as did Lang and Heyne this year.

scwazrh · 26-01-2022 11:44PM

Where’s the best place to pick up one of the seagull Chinese watches ? One like below . I know there was a post on this before but I can’t find it . Or if anyone here has one to move on .

funkyouup · 27-01-2022 12:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538109#Comment_118538109

Couldn't find the thread but i remember https://www.poljot24.de/ mentioned for stocking them.

Ian OB · 27-01-2022 01:51PM

So I lost one of the pushers from this the other week. Had some from other cheap fakes in the drawer & had a go to see if the might fit. Of course not. However, the one that was the correct length is now held in place with blue tack. Not a fix for the purists I'm sure 🤔 . Have probably increased its water resistance now as well 😁😁. Going to wear it for work tonight & will report back later as to how it holds up.

Wibbs · 27-01-2022 02:00PM

Blutac, now there's watchmaking! 😁

Further on the new Zenith Defy..

Check out where it says Swiss Made....

It's not just this pic either. It seems one of their press kit examples wasn't quite checked enough. I mean how does that even happen in the printing?

Ian OB · 27-01-2022 02:07PM

Lets just say MacGyver was a big influence on me growing up

CalamariFritti · 27-01-2022 05:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118540195#Comment_118540195

That's a funny fault. If Zenith weren't Swiss it could be classified as some sort of dig. What with 'Adé' being a German form of 'bye-bye'.

Cyrus · 27-01-2022 06:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118540195#Comment_118540195

that disappoints me, similar issue when the chronomaster sport was released, can you see it, doesnt fill you with confidence on QC.

Wibbs · 27-01-2022 06:21PM

I'm probably going to get this wrong. 😁

The C in second on the bezel thingie is rough and the chronograph hand is slightly off true. The bracelet to case gap isn't exactly toight either.

Cyrus · 27-01-2022 06:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541665#Comment_118541665

nope nothing that subtle, look at the 4 marker!

Wibbs · 27-01-2022 06:27PM

I think Zenith first screwed the pooch a few years ago now when in the middle of a year without new models they overnight upped their prices and by a fair bit. All the 'luxury' Swiss brands have increased their prices, but they did it steadily over time, slowly enough to not put off the consumer base. Zenith did it too openly and quickly.

Their other problem is that their deep history is very much of the early part of the 20th century and post WW2 they were pretty invisible with very few known models to reference for marketing. The Defy was one. They had chronograph history too, but again couldn't capitalise on it. When they 'did a Longines' with their Zenith Extra Specials they made them too blood big just as too bloody big was going out of fashion. If Longines did the same with their version of the 1930's Pilot pattern they'd make it look the same, not far off the same size and add a date.

Wibbs · 27-01-2022 06:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541681#Comment_118541681

I stared and stared and was wondering WTF is Cy on about.😁 And then it hit me. 😲 Hoooooly feck. T'is backwards! And the C in second is fecked and the chrono hand doesn't line up. How much is that watch? Not cheap I'd imagine.

Cyrus · 27-01-2022 06:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541718#Comment_118541718

10k and that was the press release model 🤨

Wibbs · 27-01-2022 07:10PM

Ten grand? Ah jaysus. I'd not be a happy camper with that. If I was looking at it in a shop up close I'd reckon it was used or something was up. The fecked text in the bezel but especially the chrono hand. If I then spotted the four marker...

I wonder are they being faked in finest chinesium? I might have a look and see if the dodgy ones have better finishing. 😁 That's really bad if it's the press example. Press examples of anything are usually tweaked to be the best. If they look that shoddy with the press one...

njburke · 27-01-2022 07:19PM

It's a fun game though, spot the QA issues.

CalamariFritti · 27-01-2022 07:55PM

Caribbean. If only they had.a spell checker.

On the Zenith, that's actually shocking. For a press release of a 10k watch you'd think someone is in trouble.

Wibbs · 27-01-2022 08:47PM

If that was seen on a press release of a 300 quid Seiko it would be very bad and there'd be scenes of hari kari in the boardroom. For 10k it's baffling that it wasn't spotted by the people working in Zenith.

cnocbui · 27-01-2022 09:44PM

When you send the sad letter about the restructure, before they have finished the current job.

unkel · 27-01-2022 10:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118542349#Comment_118542349

The hara-kiri must have gone out of fashion in Japan otherwise the entire Toyota top would have gutted themselves by now. Self charging hybrids, hydrogen cars, LOL 🤣

Fitz II · 28-01-2022 10:42AM

Show though how quickly they are trying to get watches out there to feed the hunger. Its not a bad looking watch at all bar the QC issues.

893bet · 28-01-2022 10:50AM

Almost wonder if they do it intentionally it happens so often on press release models.

Errors on Rolex dials have been infamous on occasions and cost a fortune to buy.

blue5000 · 01-02-2022 11:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118544124#Comment_118544124

That's what I was thinking as well.

banie01 · 03-02-2022 07:32PM

Borrowed the wife's ultrasonic cleaner today and gave my Seamster and Pro-master bracelets a blitz. Threw in the wedding ring too for good measure 😉

I'm always surprised by just how much mank comes out when you use an Ultrasonic bath.

Utterly manky but no it's time to but those 2 back on metal 😁

Blanchy90 · 03-02-2022 07:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118577446#Comment_118577446

I've been meaning to get one of them forever, god knows what would come off some of the vintage watches in my collection 😬

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