Crimes & Confessions [RTE1]

It just goes on to show how Ireland was one of the most corrupt countries in the world and dont get me started on inspecter Gerry o Carroll .Of all the people lives he destroyed or ended he still has the gaul to defend himself of wrong doing .How he has never been strung up and lynched is beyond me!!!

RTE do make excellent documentaries.

Last weeks episode was very good, missed tonights, will watch it during the week.

I saw part of the first episode, didn't know anything about the Lynskey case. The Sallins case was well done last night, I'd forgotten a lot of the detail. Extraordinary to think what was done in the Irish Courts at that time.

The Kerry Babies next week, rent a gob still thinks he knows better than science can prove.

Looking forward to tonight ,the Kerry babies .It made a name for Pat Mann

My memory of this case is sketchy. Did Joanne have and lose a baby around that time?

Yes she did , the child was buried on the family farm , Gardai didn't believe her and tried to pin the murder of a second child found on a beach , miles away on her.

I thought I just asking a question and I am watching it..

Thanks for the polite reply.

Why a seasoned detective like gerry o'carroll opted to take part in these programmes is beyond me. If he thought he would paint himself and his colleagues in a good light he was badly mistaken. He must have consulted with prince Andrew before going in front of the cameras!

What's that response about , no call for such rudeness 😳

Extraordinary individual and not in a good way , I wondered did he ever have to repay that damages award he got after he sued the Hayes over that Book.

I of course accept that but that absolutely doesn't excuse O Carroll's and colleagues behaviour in this case , dealing with the provo's and ordinary citizens two very different things .

It shouldn't be forgotten how blinkered the Judicial system was and how they also treated Joanne. The basic principles of innocent until proven guilty not adhered to.

O carroll proclaiming his life was treatened 3 times by the provo's you can be sure he did not use excess energy to track down these nut cases ,easyier to bully innocent girl into making a false confession .

Didn't Carroll say on the programme that Hayes told him her baby was buried on their farm but rest of Garda there didn't allow a follow up visit....he seemed to back her up with that statement

Joane Hayes said she could 'show where the baby was buried' ,she even drew diagrams of location for O Carroll ,the guards searched and found nothing but where were they told to look by o Carroll .Only for finding Joane baby on the farm and her solicitor Pat Mann dogged defence ,Joane would easily have been convicted for the murder of baby John found in Caherciveen

The sad part of the three episodes was the hurt in the accused people’s eyes and having to still live with being abused by the state and these heavy handed guards. As for o Carroll it was good to let him show no remorse for their victims and show him up as a bully and what the cover up was all the way to the top with judges backing their forced evidence.

Drew Harris needs to look at these cases again and straight away cancel o Carroll’s pension and denounce him as a rouge Gardai.

Great documentary series from RTE, finished it tonight, madness what was going on back then and not a single person held to account for it. Did the Gardai take their tactics from the Guildford 4 and Birmingham 6 British Police questioning guide books? So many lives destroyed, lost and worst is those guilty of the original crimes are still going around. Fair play to all those who fought for justice at the time and since then. How many people never saw justice, potentially there could be huge numbers in jail still or died in jail as a result of this policy for questioning, a big enquiry is needed in to every single case any Gardai associated with these cases convicted a person on. Gerry O'Carroll taking part in this show is pure gold, what was he thinking. Guards in Auschwitz are still be held to account for their crimes, the same should be done with Gardai in these cases. Lots of material here for Netflix for some documentaries.

RTE has a lot to answer for using Gardai linked to these cases as subject matter expert for news stories.

Who else apart from Gerry O'Carroll and PJ Browne and John Courtney made up the murder squad/heavy gang?

A very worthwhile series, you would hope they do another. As has been said, there is plenty of material.