Shane McInerney arrested due to bad behavior on flight to NYC

Oh, I don't disagree with you that it shouldn't happen. People should behave themselves, and respect everyone else on board.

I still stand by my original point, however. Modern society is creating a huge amount of drama queens and cry babies, who cannot handle anything even remotely stressful or unexpected. There used to be a much higher bar for what would be classified as a traumatic experience in life.

We shouldn't even know this loser's name. He's a nobody who threw a drunken wobbler on a random flight. Not the first, and certainly won't be the last.

Well, go on then? Show us the facts?

Show us the facts that prove all the people that are currently incarcerated in US prisons, wouldn't be out on the streets continuing to commit crimes and America's crime rate wouldn't be 10x higher than it already is? Show us all those facts!

You hear this nonsense trotted out by deluded wide eyed liberal types all the time. No solid evidence to back up their hypothesis however. Just fluffy liberal soundbites as per usual.

Makes my blood boil, these stories of 200+ crimimal convictions and still roaming the streets. These people cost us tax payers millions in free legal aid.

I got a parking ticket a couple of years ago from an Irish city council. Due to the circumstances at the time, and I never left the car, I appealed it. They rejected it, and doubled the fine as I had not paid within 30 days. I enquired how I could appeal to the next level ( it was the principle, it was not the money that got my goat). I recived a letter to say they were moving my case to the courts system and would recieve court summons, and would have a criminal record if found 'guilty'. I just paid it, I couldnt risk it as I travel lots, and will need visa for US, Canada, Australia, etc. Plus work references, etc.

I have never been to court, never had a fine in my life, never been arrested, but I could not risk court, I know well that they would throw the book at me, the law abiding tax payer, the easy target ..unlike the folk who appear at our courts on a monthly basis, with loads of convictions, who walk out and dont even get a fine as they 'cant afford it'.

So before we all have a go at the US justice system, I would like some elements of it being applied here.

I’d argue anyone misbehaving and intimidating and causing panic/terror on an aeroplane deserves serious repercussions. It’s one thing that boils my blood.

" .. We shouldn't even know this loser's name. He's a nobody who threw a drunken wobbler on a random flight. Not the first, and certainly won't be the last .. "

i do have some sympathy for the man. He is "one of us" .. he is part of a culture - men and women - that are quite ok with getting 10 sheets to the wind when out on the town or even at home

There is no real loss of dignity being drunk in public in Ireland ..

the brutta faccia / brute face so risible in eg. Italy and other countries is not a bother here

In Ireland, you might be embarrassed by what you said or did the nite bfore, but its not likely stop you drinking and repeating same behaviour. Your culture will forgive you. Its 'who we are'

I suspect Shane Mac had some farewell parties prior to departure that (naturally) involved copious amounts of alcohol .. still drunk on morning of flying, he may have simply been 1 or 3 beers shy of the lunatic he became en avion ..

Lately, folk have been barking on about a culture of misogny in Ireland

well, underlying this "issue" is a culture of being perfectly OK for men and women to park their reasoning at the pub door and get so rat-arsed that they cant even remember how they got home next day

You might fling cocaine and several other recreationals into the mix for good measure

Personal responsibility / safety then becomes dependant on the goodwill of the immediate people / friends around you. Then if you get into any kind of trouble .. well .. no way is it your fault ..

They scratch their heads about how gentlemen fail to be gentlemen and ladies fail to be ladies on a night out.

We are not the only culture. I have visited Poland a lot recently. To see a goddess of a woman in the morning turn into an ugly, devil-possessed woman in a bar or house party 12 hours later is truly a sight to behold

Absolutely, people have personal responsibility for their behaviour but I also charge a culture that turns a blind eye to the evils of excess drinking. Endless hours in a bar getting blotto aka rowdy seems to be perfectly fine

Again, this is NOT everybody but it happens often enough to at least be considered an issue eg. re the safety of those in one's immediate vicinity esp. mid flight

Shane Mac is an arse right enough but we are all complicit. If we are to call out loutish behaviours againt women, shouldn't we make sure everybody is sober first so they are available to listen ?

Authorities might well approach drinking culture with the self same vigour as they did smoking.

At least with smoking, you are mostly killing just yourself

You can take the man out of Ballinasloe but you can't take Ballinasloe out of the man, will be a bit of shock to the system when he's roaming those bleak streets again at some point wondering where it all went wrong.

Right, and in the US it's exactly the same. The government won't come after you for naming some random person as a murderer, but a private company like Boards or Twitter are not going to allow you publish something that is potentially libellous and could cost them a fortune.

The problem here is that you just don't understand what freedom of speech refers to.

Blame Nurofen 😁

I did not deny the personal responsibility of Shane Mc for his actions in my post above.

I wrote -

"Absolutely, people have personal responsibility for their behaviour .. "

What I decry is the prevalence and acceptance of a heavy drinking culture in Ireland. Simply that

Another thread started up on boards today is titled " IF ALCOHOL DISAPPEARED OVERNIGHT, THE COURTS COULD CLOSE .."

They are simply opinions. You don't have to agree with them ..

You write ... " Now our culture of increasingly not being responsible for our own actions...that might be something I'd consider .. "

Well, getting plastered drunk - irish style - is one example of "not being responsible for our own actions ..."

I hope he gets jail time and a minimum of five years and banned from flying for at least 10 years. Anyone that causes disruption of any kind mid flight deserves this at the very least. No excuse for it at all.