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Am I using this roundabout correctly?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭The Mighty Quinn


    Yeah this thread didn't exactly provide a consensus I was hoping for!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭geotrig



    Red lane unless otherwise indicated with signage ,arrows etc as its the "straight ahead" or 12'o clock exit and standard 2 lane etiquette re merging etc ,if in blue lane don't cut across unless you've indicated and or safe to do so ,if in red lane indicate and exit but be aware of what is on your right hand side, a car could be in the blue lane and using that exit as the 3rd exit.


    I agree with phileas frog that the uhl one is troublesome and ive seen issue's with the bus lane/stop being so close to where you are supposed to enter the left lane to go straight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,737 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I am pleased to see/interested in this discussion. I had the same experience at a two on-one off roundabout. I was caught in the right lane as I had overtaken and couldn't get into the left lane at the roundabout, I should have gone round again but (wrongly) assumed the off was two lanes and caused some consternation to the car beside me when I realised it was not. There was no indication approaching the roundabout or at the on-junction that the roundabout was a one-lane-off - others in the sequence are two on/two off.

    Anyway it gave both of us a fright and I have now learned from it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,961 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Wrong. Effectively exiting at 12 o'clock, so left lane is correct.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    Problem solved;

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    Post edited by chooseusername on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    Try telling that to a Garda


    I will be in court soon regarding something similar to the op except the exit is further at the "2pm" time if taking the clock analogy. 210 degrees from the entry point to be more precise.

    Garda said that because I was continuing on the same road (r445) that the left lane is used.

    I literally laughed and asked him where I could find a reference for that and he refused to do so and had a ticket sent to me for "driving without consideration"


    Funny, he undertook me on the approach to get ahead of me in order to block me get me to pull over after exiting.


    I will not be paying the fine and look forward to what he has to say in court.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    They used to do that, but too many eejits were literally turning right onto the roundabout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,737 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I think '12 o'clock' is not so much a legal term as a way of saying you are effectively going straight on/continuing on the same road, regardless of a slight bend in the road. If there were two exits before the one you took you might have an argument, if there is only one then I don't think it will be accepted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Vaccinated30


    On a roundabout like this, close your eyes and hold your breath. What will be will be 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I often use this strategy especially abroad when unsure exit i need...

    OP... my view on this is assuming road clear and two cars entering the car entering first has right to exit first just courtesy... entering bat the exact time whoever best on roundabout... i have often overtook on roundabout in this situation... go to Spain/Italy and hire a car you learn pretty fast...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Here’s another Limerick roundabout to add to the roundabout discussion 😉


    Leaving the M7 westbound towards Castletroy. I’m interested as to what lane people think should be used here. In reality you could see anything on that roundabout.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    right lane and indicate and move left after first exit on to motorway... check left mirror just in case i happen to be around...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    I believe so. Right lane on entry. Move left after motorway (second) exit. And exit roundabout. You could see anything there though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    I've changed it now , these signs are common all over the Uk , no problems.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


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    Frightening to see how there could be so much confusion around roundabouts. In the OPs case, look at the sign. His exit is clearly marked as the 12 o'clock position so stay on the left lane. How there can be any confusion, I don't know ...


    If the local authority want to balance the traffic volumes between lanes, then the 12 o'clock rule might not apply and follow the road markings instead. Example:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Basically whoever in RSA designed roads must have being driving horse/cart...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,490 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The RSA don't design roads. TII do (formerly the NRA)

    The OP is using the roundabout correctly to the letter of the law, but not the spirit. Which is an indictment on the design for sure.

    I would use it as if the second exit did not exist. And be all the safer for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I agree the roundabout is badly designed... no.., clarity for usage because of design...



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why are you talking about the number of exits? That has gone the same way as the man who used to walk in front of the car waving a flag.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The signs on the approach roads showing his exit is an exactly 12 o'clock is confusing to you? What is it that is unclear?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I'm not confused at all... whoever designed a straight through roundabout two lanes in one lane out is the one you need to talk to..



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes, you are confused. You don't know it but you are confused. Hence the confusion and deflection of blaming the designer.

    What difference does it make having only one exit lane? You're suggesting that because drivers - bizarrely - can't figure out what lane to be in on approach, every roundabout should be re-designed to accommodate poor and indecisive drivers and have two lanes on exit? Have you never encountered other roundabouts with one exit lane?

    Yes, two exit lanes would be nice to have to allow for better capacity, etc. But that's not case, so it's up to the drivers get in the correct lane on approach. The luxery of choosing either lane is not an option on this case. God, no wondering driving can be so infuriating. Even this thread is infuriating!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    You are confused yourself,

    you are entering the r/about from the R527 (Condell Road) ,

    The op is entering from the L8570 (Clonmacken Road) which has no such sign.

    On the return journey below, there is no confusion as the L 8570 is clearly signposted as straight ahead

    and there is only one lane onto the roundabout.

    rabout.jpg


    It would be interesting to know what SatNav instructions are in op's case.

    I just had a look at iphone directions and op would be told to take 3rd exit,

    people unfamiliar with the layout and going on verbal instructions only,

    could well enter the roundabout from the right hand lane.

    Post edited by chooseusername on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    You don't know what your talking about... there should be two exit lanes at the roundabout and filtered into one... you will never see a roundabout like this in NI or UK or any other country... However you will see single exits to secondary routes like there is in this case... There are quite a few of these roundabouts on major routes in this country...

    Believe me i am no way indecisive and have driven in many countries and in places most people wouldn't dream of driving "Bangkok"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Coming from driving for 20 years across the water, I am astounded at the quality of driving on roundabouts here. Saying that, it doesn't help when the lanes don't have the direction on them. I would choose the most left lane ( red ) for the example from the OP.

    If I was in the blue lane, I would be extra vigilant and checking over my left shoulder to ensure it was safe to take that exit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    That is a very worthwhile comment... personally because i am an effer i will gauge whats happening and choose according to what i see... for me common sense...



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