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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #41552
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭maebee


    Went for a meal and drinkies tonight. Watching people going to the bar for their drinks felt so weird. It's amazing how your mind can be f*cked with, in less than 2 years.



  • #41553
    mightyreds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    Just back from the local, it was a lot different maybe it's the beer talking but you got a butt that won't quit , they got those big chewy pretzels fbdhrurhdhenehehehehe five dollars get outta hereggfry



  • #41554
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118519440#Comment_118519440

    Love a link here. I agree with you, but where is the straightforward statement.

    The public statements dint directly address this.

    Hic. Great night tonight left at 1am and felt free!



  • #41555
    Fiyatoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Fiyatoe


    Any word of this crap being closed down?


    Anything on this site that resembles the topic covid should have an expiry date of end of feb or something.

    lets Move on and forget it all. Mask off!



  • #41556
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    MIRROR


    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/places-you-still-need-wear-26020822

    "All of the places you still need to wear a mask in Ireland after huge changes to Covid restrictions

    The mask mandate will remain in place until it is reviewed at the end of February

    Pubs and restaurants

    Customers should wear a face covering on their way to and from their table and may be refused entry if they refuse to wear one.

    Staff in sit-in restaurants or cafes must wear a face covering unless they are separated by a screen."


    DUBLIN LIVE


    "There will no longer be a requirement for social distancing or a maximum of six people at a table and masks will not have to be worn in bars."


    EXAMINER


    "What about face masks?

    There will be no change to the requirement to wear face coverings in retail or transport spaces. Masks must also be worn in school settings until February 28. While these restrictions remain in place until the end of February, in hospitality settings, only staff will have to wear a mask.

    Justice Minister Helen McEntee said this was because people were aware of the risks of places such as bars and restaurants for medically vulnerable people."


    You know what, it actually speaks more about the quality of journalism in Ireland (as well as HSE advice) that you can't actually get a simple answer to this after all the announcement. Shocking.



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  • #41557
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Again, and perhaps someone can explain:


    If wearing masks was predominately about protecting the other person rather than yourself - and this was the KEY message we've heard over the last 2 years, why are we all able to eliminate masks except the front facing staff?


    don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing for masks. But why are the staff MANDATED to wear masks when the people that should theretically be protecting them by wearing masks THEMSELVES not have to. There is something amiss here imo.



  • #41558
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They should always have had a website like say COVID.gov.ie with clear and up to date advice. I had to organise small (outdoor) events over the last couple of years, when it was possible to do so and it was always a total nightmare of uncertainty about what was and wasn’t permitted anytime they changed anything.

    If you weren’t watching the nuances of government press conferences, you were often going on second hand media information, which wasn’t always accurate.

    You also had and still have a lot of out of date information on various public service websites.

    That was and still is my main gripe with government comms on this - single source of reference for all current info is always a good idea.

    As for the people griping on twitter, yeah that will happen. A lot of people are a bit freaked out after two years of what has been absolutely horrible stuff, and not just in Ireland. We’ve all been though a lot. Be patient and nice to people over the weeks ahead. It’s going to take time and the risks are different for different people.

    We are also looking at international coverage all day, and the US in particular is in a very different place from us at the moment, both earlier in the Omicron wave and, in many states, much less vaccinated. So you’ve a lot of doom and gloom coming from their reporting.

    I’m finding the concern over dropping vaccine certs is more appropriate to parts of continental Europe. Ireland has huge vaccine uptake and the certs had become quite redundant when you can have as high as 96% or adults vaccinated in many regions and it’s over 93% nationally. That’s about as high as you’ll ever get with any vaccine campaign.

    We don’t know where this will go in the weeks and months ahead but I think at this stage, particularly if your vaccinated and boosted and at low risk, enjoy yourself and enjoy being around other humans again.

    Take precautions if you feel you need to and don’t criticise people who may need to take more than you do.



  • #41559
    SortingYouOut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118519878#Comment_118519878

    Maybe it's the amount of people they interact with compared to customers, they're more exposed. To be honest I don't think there's a point in them anymore with society fully open. It made sense when we were trying to keep incidence low, but it's everywhere now. Maybe they felt removing mask wearing along with everything else would be felt as too much for some. The masks provide a sense of security for those not quite ready.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • #41560
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118519893#Comment_118519893

    yep agree. But it is difficult to see the actual rules - they say retain masks for customer facing roles in hospitality/retail - but are silent on customers. Therefore, assume no requirement. But the news websites are a bit vague on this. And it's even more vague in the pub!



  • #41561
    SortingYouOut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    I was out today for food myself and everyone seemed to be wearing one out of their seat like before, I had thought it was all rules gone but masks still needed where they had been before. I wasn't aware of the official line but not surprised that it's a clear as mud.

    Beverly Hills, California



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  • #41562
    glitterIsland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭glitterIsland


    Some people expel a lot of fluid/salvia while speaking. It makes sense to retain masks in relation to food and beverage service. To minimise other peoples salvia landing on your foods/drinks.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118519897#Comment_118519897




  • #41563
    Irish Aris
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/0fc0d-government-announces-that-most-of-the-public-health-measures-currently-in-place-can-be-removed/

    Good morning everyone.

    I think this is the link that describes it exactly

    2025 gigs: Selofan, Alison Moyet, Wardruna, Gavin Friday, Orla Gartland, The Courettes, Nine Inch Nails, Rhiannon Giddens, New Purple Celebration, Nova Twins



  • #41564
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭prunudo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520094#Comment_118520094

    Heard an ad on the radio saying similar yesterday. Had to laugh though, the only people I know who were reducing social contacts were those that were self isolating. Everyone else has been living as normal the last few weeks.



  • #41565
    Be right back
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭Be right back


    ..

    Post edited by Be right back on


  • #41566
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520094#Comment_118520094

    Hi Irish.

    So it says there:

    "A number of public health measures will remain in place until 28 February 2022:

    requirements for mask wearing in all settings where currently regulated for" - which would suggest you still wear masks in pubs while moving around.


    But then the Mask Wearing section states:

    "Mask wearing will still be required in the following settings:

    • public transport, taxis and at stations/airports/ports
    • retail premises (including shopping centres, libraries, cinemas, theatres, museums, post offices, banks), public offices and at premises providing specified services and businesses (incl. salons, hairdressers, travel agents, laundries, dry cleaners, bookmakers)
    • customer facing roles in premises where food and beverages are sold for consumption on the premises"


    So, the last bullet suggests not required for customers in pubs. Unless they are covered by "retail premises" - in which case the list of examples missing out on pubs and restaurants is a very strange omission.



  • #41567
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Was in two pubs in Dublin city centre yesterday.

    Pub 1 - All staff has masks and people wore masks moving around

    Pub 2 - No masks to be seen

    So yeah. very clear.



  • #41568
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Whats the story now with masks in offices? Doesn't appear to be on the below so assume employer discretion


    "Mask wearing will still be required in the following settings:

    • public transport, taxis and at stations/airports/ports
    • retail premises (including shopping centres, libraries, cinemas, theatres, museums, post offices, banks), public offices and at premises providing specified services and businesses (incl. salons, hairdressers, travel agents, laundries, dry cleaners, bookmakers)
    • customer facing roles in premises where food and beverages are sold for consumption on the premises"




  • #41569
    Irish Aris
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520485#Comment_118520485

    I agree Podge, the language is a bit vague. I guess they tried to cover as much as possible, but impossible to cover everything without getting more detailed.

    An interesting one for me is concerts. I'll be in the 3Arena in the beginning of February. Do I wear mask or not? As you said the first part says "where is currently regulated" but then music venues aren't mentioned further down.

    I guess what will happen is people will go with the flow. Very difficult to "police" it at this point...

    2025 gigs: Selofan, Alison Moyet, Wardruna, Gavin Friday, Orla Gartland, The Courettes, Nine Inch Nails, Rhiannon Giddens, New Purple Celebration, Nova Twins



  • #41570
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Mask usage has already collapsed.



  • #41571
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Just caught a ‘GP’ on Brendan O’Connor enroute to my Sunday walk. She wanted the certs kept so the vaccines in her surgery won’t go to waste. Nothing about anyone acquiring immunity to Omicron over Christmas, nothing about how she’s paid per shot, nothing about how she blatantly lied stating vaccines stop Omicron spreading - they don’t. Stated certs are a good coercive tool for her practice to operate on with less booster cancellations. Sounds like someone is making a pretty penny from the vaccines and doesn’t want to return to her day job.

    Perhaps she should think about returning to her job of picking up early cancers, diagnosing long term medical issues and actually treating her patients.



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  • #41572
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    In town last night. Absolutely not the carnage some were predicting.

    Most places seemed busy, but "Saturday night in January" busy. Not, "end of pandemic party" busy. Didn't see anywhere bursting at the seams or with loads of people packed in at the bar.

    A lot of restaurants with queues outside at six o clock, maybe just down to people not booking or not being able to book at such short notice.

    Definitely some confusion around masks alright. Plenty of people coming in and out of bars and restaurants with masks on. That'll take some time to settle down. Some people may also choose to continue wearing masks regardless of the advice and that's cool.

    It was certainly weird to just wander in off the street, sit down at the bar and order pints, but like slipping on an old jacket, within five minutes it all felt perfectly normal. I'd probably still not squeeze myself into a busy pub that's heaving, but I'm too old for that **** anyway.



  • #41573
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,053 ✭✭✭✭fits


    … there’s a lot of covid around still and a lot of people susceptible to it. I’m on day 6 now and still quite weak with it. I wouldn’t fancy getting it if unvaxed or with comorbidities.



  • #41574
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520738#Comment_118520738

    Where is this ? I see them everywhere



  • #41575
    DLink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    Went to the local fast food place last night....

    All mask warning signs were removed from the front door & counter, all social distancing stickers were removed from the floor. The only indication there was a pandemic is the fact that the staff were wearing masks, which is legally required, and unfortunately most of the punters who were wearing their masks also.

    I guess they were unsure of what to do, or were still afraid of killing granny, but I was served by a manager and I was not wearing a mask ( I observed with my own eyes just a few weeks ago the same manager throwing people out for not wearing masks), so I guess you don't need to wear masks in restaurants.

    It's gonna take a while to pry those masks off faces.



  • #41576
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Well those 14 hours yesterday will haunt my nightmares. We ran out of guinness and vodka before 9pm. Closed the bar at 11 and were still cleaning up the place after 2am. In fairness to people most were very understanding especially as for some this was their first Saturday squished up at the bar. I still have my voice so I didn't have to yell at many customers :D

    One tip for people though, if you're standing 20 minutes waiting to be served don't complain about it to the bartender who hasn't so much as gotten to go for a piss in the last 7 hours.



  • #41577
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,349 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520787#Comment_118520787

    I could see wearing masks on public transport and in settings like big supermarkets being a thing into the distant future - which is absolutely fine, especially in wintertime when more viruses are circulating generally.



  • #41578
    bosco12345
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭bosco12345


    Was in a pub on camden street last night. Packed and barely any masks worn. Felt free, we have our country back, finally.



  • #41579
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520950#Comment_118520950

    Where masks are optional, like gyms, they aren't worn.

    So the people who love masks will have to focus their energies on something else.



  • #41580
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,349 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520971#Comment_118520971

    Public transport is a different kettle of fish - people packed together in very close proximity. I wouldn't be surprised to see mask wearing continuing here and certainly in wintertime.



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  • #41581
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭celt262


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118520946#Comment_118520946

    If I was waiting 20 minutes on pint I would be out the door to a quieter spot.



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