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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭Cork2021




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    They have been running that one for a few weeks. Personally I think regulators should be looking at those types of claims. Going to lead to a lot of workplace disputes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    Is it illegal to be an idiot now?

    In that case many of us are in doo doo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    While I understand how 'long Covid' has become a colloquial term to describe what can happen, I'm not sure how there isn't a better actual knowledge of what it is by now. I was one of the first people to have what was most likely long Covid following a March 2020 infection. I had a range of post-viral inflammatory conditions. It was very worrisome when I experienced chest and lung difficulties 4 days after my seeming recovery as it was literally the same day that reports had come out of Korea of people testing positive after recovery and media speculation about Covid being a chronic condition was absolutely rife. But over the next few weeks the Korean investigation showed that their PCRs were picking up dead viral fragments and that as the virus didn't penetrate the host nucleus it was very unlikely to be a chronic condition. I was eventually diagnosed with pleurisy in my right lung, costochondritis, post viral-thyroiditis (which had caused the strangest symptoms including the mild myocarditis), esophagitis and a few other problems that were a mix of post-viral and medication side effects. I was essentially convalescent for 3 months and at about 80-90% but still needing to make adaptations for another 6 months. And I was left with severe insomnia which weirdly enough seems to have nearly disappeared following an Omicron infection 2 weeks ago.

    But 'long Covid' is no mystery. It's mainly just a collection of the regular normal post-viral conditions that can come after any virus when the immune system overreacts to a threat. Some viruses cause them more than other, Glandular Fever is well known for it, for example. Covid was a novel virus, so it wasn't unusual for an awful lot of people's immune systems to overreact. People should just have been told to take it easy following infection and even if you fee well, ease back into heavy physical activity. I jumped straight back in to high levels of exercise once I felt better and I triggered problems. If I'd been more sensible and chilled out for a couple of weeks, I'd probably have avoided 'long Covid.' With my initial infection I never felt sick, I had breathing problems when I rested, breathing was harder work but I felt otherwise ok. Once I recovered, I felt full of energy, which led me to thinking I was fine to get back to normal and my normal includes a lot of exercise. With Omicron, I had an obvious cold, with achey muscles for a day or two, then felt weak and jelly like for another while, with constant on and off headaches. I was really tired in spite of getting more sleep each night than I had in nearly two years. It's like a normal illness and one where I feel more in tune with how it's actually affecting me. I feel like I can trust myself to know what activities I'm capable of and feel much less likely to cause post-viral inflammation. People just need to be told to rest after a Covid infection but tbh, I suspect that Omicron isn't going to trigger as much post-viral problems, especially as it's no longer a novel virus to the vaccinated majority.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    You have absolutely no idea what sacrifices myself or my family have had to make because of the pandemic restrictions. So unless you do, you can keep those kind of comments to yourself, Dannyboy.

    I never heard of the NI Gorilla war before. Where was that, Belfast Zoo?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    No absolutely not, work away 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,739 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    When they say mask wearing will continue for

    • Customer facing roles in premises where food and beverages are sold for consumption on the premises

    What exactly is this setting?

    I know I'm being a bit thick now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Vaccinated30


    People who work in McDonald's, Eddie rockets etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    The doom mongers in question presumably being those complaining how restrictions were never going to be eased, how Tony was just trying to take over the world, and how their lives were over?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,739 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,739 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn





  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I actually feel a little bit sorry for the people who actually thought that society as we know it will change forever. People will very quickly go back to the things that make life more enjoyable.

    I also imagine MM is delighted. He got to give the good news and will leave the fallout to Leo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,739 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Things will get back to normal for those that want to in my experience.

    Masks are a great example.

    People will put them on mainly not to cause hassle in a shop in my experience.

    They are then thrown in the car, pocket, etc and reused. It isnt really about staying safe at this stage.

    Even the thread on here only really have a few people interested in then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,128 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay



    Your predictions were a bit off. When people go on about doom-monger's its poster like yourself they are referring to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Well since society is constantly changing, it will be changed forever by this.

    The lasting changes however won't be the changes in behaviour that were a response to the pandemic, but a continuation of the changes already underway that were accelerated by the pandemic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    Maybe not - I think it means the staff on tills etc wear them but staff in the kitchen don’t have to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Back from a lovely lunch. Was reluctant to support the Covid pass up to this but my goodness how lovely it was to walk into an establishment today & just be asked where you’d like to sit, etc., rather than be greeted by a restaurant manager checking out your Covid Cert and ID.

    Now time to book a mid term break away in Ireland - so delighted to see us finally coming out of the shadows, although it must be noted some are being dragged out of this kicking and screaming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Kingston Mills - is he serious??!!! New variant that is looking more transmissible than Omicron?? Is this for real??

    Mistake to drop Digital Covid Certificates - Expert

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/0122/1275247-covid-pass/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep


    There's no going back. Government/media/medics have irreversibly transformed our society. Now they are telling us to be "proud" mainly because we were too insecure/repressed to ever demand any real explanations.

    Remember if Omnicron had not come along this same group would be running stories about how "excited", a truly disgusting turn of phrase, you all are to queue up for your 4th shot. The vast majority (u65 and no underlyings) have been injected multiple times for absolutely no reason; you did not protect anyone. 

    Proud, right, of course ;-)



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nearly everything in that post happened or is currently happening.

    I said many times on here that the best way out of restrictions for the Irish is our neighbours going first and forcing our hand.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,249 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    The poor uptake is because the 20-29 portal wasn't opened till the week after they all caught it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭Croohur1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    But I mean what he said about there being a new variant from Denmark that "looks like it is more transmissible than Omicron"?? I haven't heard a single things about this variant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    New variant... its a sub lineage of omicron.

    Sooner him and the likes get off the airwaves the better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Kingston Mills speaks only for the pharmaceutical industry and not for the people of Ireland. It takes a special kind of someone to come out today after the two years the people of Ireland have endured hyping up a sub lineage variant - basically just a different version of Omicron which is probably just the type that’s circulating in that area rather than being a variant people could be infected with. He also wants to keep the ‘papers please’ mentality in the population, and people’s rights stripped permanently unless they take a certain drug / treatment of his choosing.

    I do hope there’s a reckoning for some of these scientists who are clearly speaking with their bank account & career in mind rather than in the public interest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Have these so called nervous people not been out at all in the last 22 months?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,427 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Thanks for clarifying what this "variant" actually is. I had no idea and nearly lost my life when I saw his quote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,344 ✭✭✭✭martingriff




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,344 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Of course it was there job tell you the worse and hope for the best it'd what any medical staff will tell you. Papers and media of course gravity towards the worse



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