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Claire Byrne Live (RTE1)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    She said there a minute ago that in order to solve this problem men are going to have to cede money and power, I havent the foggiest of how that is going to stop crazed murderers murdering but there you go.

    The media coverage of this story is completely in G.U.B.U territory.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    "Now is the time for men to shut up"

    ....but after I spend 10 minutes spieling on national tv.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    We can’t eradicate psychos when the judges give them bail all the time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    Keith is talking utter sh1te

    This terrible murder was committed by 1 man. Not some men or many men.

    And no one has any idea what was the motive



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    The sheer amount of virtue signaling is staggering, it's impressive actually.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    What are men wrong about?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,412 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    We don't know enough about the killer to talk about rules.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    The state of Keith Walsh. All these arseholes exploiting the tragic, awful death of a young woman to promote their brand. Jumping on the latest bandwagon. Of course, we should expect nothing else from Claire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    That didn’t actually happen did it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I can imagine an all male Whatsapp group is a dark place in all fairness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,412 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Those scumbags are dolemerchants, they won't be seeking or getting an education, they are destined for Dolelife.





  • So it is because she was full of Irish Middle Class culture that “we see Ashling in us” therefore she is more important (all due respect etc) to us than a mere working class person or one of foreign hue, so to speak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Hmmm this virtue signaling business is getting more insidious...almost like if you don't signal you are the problem...very childish stuff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    They are making mighty presumptions about the incident last week.

    I wonder how the topic of conversation would change if it turned out it was a psychotic attack and mental health services failed the person.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Keith said "looking back, I wish I didn't leave the whatsapp group and I just said it!"

    No one would give a fcuk about what Walshe says! No one is going to question themselves because that lad said something.



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  • Mind you, a very serious abuser (died recently) I knew was a successful pillar of society, a teacher, and once honoured by the Pope, although Pope Francis later took the honour off him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭cassette50


    I'm sure he was rehearsing his speech all day, praying it goes viral and he can get some TV work off the back of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    Prime Time and Claire Byrne lacking any reasonable balance, as tragic as the circumstances are.





  • I have a relative who used to be held at knifepoint by his wife if he as much as questioned her frequent spending in high end retailers (she didn’t work) versus trying to pay the mortgage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,412 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    9 counties in Ireland with no refuge for women, wow what a scandal. There's not a single mens refuge in the entire country for comparison.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    More men die in workplaces accidents than women. If the stats were reversed there'd be some movement about how women are treated worse at work.

    I was watching RTE earlier on and they were on about the pandemic and how it was bad financially for people across the globe. First line..."women bore the brunt of the pandemic"......38% of people who died from Covid were women....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    My mate that got his bollocks felt up (by a woman) a while ago as we went into Bruxelles (Dublin) just texted wondering should he take it further and will I go witness. It's a tricky one cos if we press charges, we'll be viewed as total wimps. Yep, it's tough being a bloke these days.

    And then we'll have to deal with RTE ringing all the time to tell the story.





  • My relative finally found refuge overseas. Couldn’t even return for parent’s funeral as would have been in danger.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I got my arse pinched many times without consent! I've even had women trying to unbutton my shirt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,412 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    How much departments and quango's do we bloody need in this country? There's ads on the radio telling you not to feed sweets to your kids as they will become obese.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Of course Aishling wont be the last one, we've a population of around 4 billion, these things do happen you're never going to eradicate this type of incident from society, the world isn't and never will be a Utopia.



  • Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    Some fairly shameful stuff on this shite show of a programme tonight, cervical check scandal, mother and babies homes being mentioned, how in the name of Jesus is this relevant to the shocking events in Tullamore. The fact women don't earn enough is now being discussed.

    My own wife is actually seething listening to it, the grandstanding. Blatant using the murder of an innocent young girl to peddle their agendas, it's absolutely crass. And there is absolutely zero counter argument, not one voice questioning the relevance of it.

    If I hear anyone else mentioning this as being a watershed I'll lose the plot. So what me make a collective decision to call out lads playing with themselves in public/spiking drinks (which 99% of men actually do call out anyway) and voila, no more women will be murdered.

    It's absolutely ridiculous. Trying to outdo each other with their own stories. Anyone without a story will be feeling left out.

    Is anyone going to ask what the relevance of this is to what happened in Tullamore?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Women tend to go back to men who abuse them, I dunno why that is, but security ,a roof , a bed must be a massive part of it



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    This is an absolutely disgraceful show tonight.

    Using Ashling Murphy's death as the firelighter for discussing domestic abuse and violence. There's no motive known for the attack so for all anyone knows, it was a psychotic attack by a man who's been failed by mental health services in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    I think I preferred it when she was obsessing over Covid!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Why are they talking as though it was a domestic violence incident? RTE are truly idiotic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭MOR316


    I was abused by my partner, physically and mentally and I went back to her. Don't know what it is myself either if I'm honest. Self esteem maybe, feeling like we'd never get anyone else



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,412 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Whistling to be banned by Friday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    A watershed moment. Helen McEntee wants to delivery a policy of zero tolerance in cases like this one against women.

    Is there not zero tolerance policy towards murder in general FFS? Virtue signalling is going to make proper discourse very difficult in future, Margaret on Facebook will be happy with a soundbite rather than any substantive debate.

    Lack of a women's refuge in Offaly is being attributed now. The hysteria is absolutely unbelievable.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    more like women to be allowed to bear arms but not men



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Most women openly admit they'll always go for the bad guy, the womanizer, they guy in demand, the loud mouth over confident type, but then when it all goes bad they ask the question, that they always ask '' aren't there any nice guys out there''

    Yes there are, but women don't give these guys the time of day



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭MOR316




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Alison O'Connor: "I don't understand why men....yada yada....I just don't know why!"

    Well maybe if there was a man on the show who didn't have his balls tucked in between his legs and gave their opinion you might find out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭archfi


    Funnily enough, the probability that he was asked to come on that drought of a current affairs show is that he managed to get in quickly just after the murder with a tweet that 'trended'.

    That's what RTE is about for the past 6 years - Twitter.

    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    Why would any bloke go on and challenge the hysteria? Lamb to the slaughter, its a cause that cannot be questioned.

    Youd be probably accused of disrespecting the poor girl who lost her life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Goodnight folks. Looking forward to another day tomorrow where only womens lives are valued





  • Twitter is now the front door to everything. I ended up being interviewed on TodayFM re vaccine before Christmas on foot of a Tweet, and quoted over several media outlets. One or two tweets about recent events upped me abt 20 followers, though I think some of those are “keeping an eyes on me” as much as agreeing with me. But it is certainly the single most influential medium at the moment as it doesn’t take long to read a tweet and ideal for short attention spans. Alongside TikTok, it’s a viral kind of thing. Insta/FB are slow runners by comparison.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Now Correct me if I'm wrong...but this murder wasn't a result of domestic abuse...so a women's refuge is utterly irrelevant



  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    Watching this on +1. Looks like the men who were killed or injured after stepping in to halt violence on women and other men have been wiped from history. The most cruel irony that this hive-mind crowd ignore or deny what they say they are asking for.



  • Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    Point I was making. Everything from gender pay inequality to mother and baby homes also got mentioned.

    All causes for justice I'd completely agree but raised in the context of an innocent girl having her life taken is just incredibly crass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    The poor guy was probably only having problems getting his seatbelt to click in.

    She probably scared the shíte out of him staring into his car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,809 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I think it's appalling how her family are being treated by the media on Sunday the family went to walk along the canal and not alone did the media say it. They also showed it in pictures/videos.

    All these people are on about respect for women, etc and that's fine however they can't seem to respect people themselves.

    Yes, I know news needs to reported but I think there's a better way to do and there's also need to discuss issues.

    Similarly I know of another tragic case where a family had a private funeral. The put the death up on RIP and said it was private. They gave no mass times, etc. They even turned off the camera in the Church and yet people showed up at the church trying to get in, . Similarly the media also turned up to photograph it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,021 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    It's very striking how "Social Media" are being named as the bad guys in all this Vulgar Hysteria when in fact its Established print and TV media who are and continue to be the real Trolls. RTE & VMN stand out for the vulgarity displayed. The Narrative is actually less about the actual henious crime and more about what They perceive as a societal issue.

    The Blame game has been utterly shocking, the obsession in seeking to blame and shame all men has been appalling . Dragging, completely un related challenges women face into this Tradegy is disgraceful.

    The Gardai too don't escape my critism, they inadvertently stirred up hysteria and its simply beggar's belief information on the first, entirely innocent suspect wasn't leaked or briefed by them, unless of course people think it was the Tooth Fairy. That (Doctor), Pat Leahy Fella is an utter clown and one of Claires go too "Experts' on her ghastly radio show.

    The sight of Politicians, Campaign groups, Personalities jumping on the populist Bandwagon, is just vile and frankly vomit enducing.

    This was clearly a Random attack and no amount of outrage and hysteria can change that, Talk of a Minister for women, review of School Slybus is utterly absurd and even Sam Mc Konkey weighed into the absurdity over the weekend, now that pandemic is winding down.

    But of course, we all know, by Friday next, the, Narrative, Priorities, dare I say outrage and focus will move onto some other populist agenda.

    The Past week has been a Stain on two fronts. The appalling Tradegy and the quite extraordinary (not in a good way) hijacking of this Tradegy by a populist and frankly narrow minded cohort of Politicians, Journalists, crass celebrities and focus lobby who should, but of course, won't be ashamed of themselves.

    RIP Ashling Murphy 🙏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭archfi


    Yep, it's insidious and quite frankly not a gauge of public opinion to any serious degree given it's usage.

    I mean if media outlets/personality driven shows actually used Twitter with impartiality in mind they'd use it to find at minimum, some different opinions by the small amount of real life users on matters - we wouldn't have had to suffer yer man when his opinion was 'men, shut up' while presumably being one of the approved men not 'shutting up'

    But the media (handily owned by corporate groups, rarely independent) don't, except to enforce certain narratives by using the odd, and I mean extremely odd opinion, against whatever spiel they are pushing. It's very rare to hear anyone other than the usuals and rarer to find actual serious opposing opinions discussed at any length with any seriousness.

    Media, especially RTE, has become the broadcast version of Twitter.

    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



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