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The Book Of Boba Fett - Disney+ (**Spoilers**)

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    #212
    delly
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    I had a few reservations after the first two episodes, but saw some reactions from hardcore fans and felt a bit better. Episode 3 however is just too much of the meh factor. Pop up biker gang, slow moving chases, ropey CGI and a very weak Boba Fett. It reminds me a bit of Band of Brothers and The Pacific when it came out, everybody thinking the latter would be just as good as the former. The same applies here IMHO with Mando being Band of Brothers if you get me.



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    #213
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Everyone calling Vespa Gang a biker gang 😁😂🤣



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    #214
    delly
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    Well in retrospect, they are like mobility scooters more than anything.



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    #215
    shotgunmcos
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    I wanted to like it but the the vespa smarties gang felt forced in non forced fashion. It reminded me of the filler spiders episode on Mando season 2, albeit the x wing chase was a actually decent.

    Have the Twins gone back to Hutta to get permission to assassinate at will and recover Jabbas gaff? Is the Rancor a trojan horse? Where's the ninja girl Tusken? Or the kid Tusken assigned to him? Where is the Slave 1? Where is the Mayor? What did he do to the Biker Gang? Who really is the baddie? When will he go completely ham on someone or something? Hopefully Ep 4 is more of bagass Boba and less Flower Pot 1970s Boba



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    #216
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,180 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118472057#Comment_118472057

    Where's the ninja girl Tusken? Or the kid Tusken assigned to him?

    They are dead. they showed this in the flashback.



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    #217
    silverharp
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    Im going to watch the series when its all out, getting the feeling that there are mixed opinions about the show and that it wont be as good as Manalorian.

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    #218
    FlubberJones
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    I was enjoying the first two but E03 was just daft, it seemed they had thrown stuff in just to make it more "Disney" ... HOW SLOW WAS THAT CHASE???

    Anyway, lets hope it ramps up a bit in E04, it really needs to.



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    #219
    Hego Damask
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    Good point about the rancor being a trojan horse. the way Trejo said "he'll be back" his grin looked dubious ..



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    #220
    Penn
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118472551#Comment_118472551

    I was wondering the same myself, that maybe it's the Hutts' long-term plan since the Wookie failed. But I also think it might become a thing where Boba does actually manage to tame the Rancor.



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    #221
    ohnonotgmail
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118472551#Comment_118472551

    Trejos grin always looks dubious.



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    #222
    eviltimeban
    Registered Users Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    So, if Mando is set in Tattooine (more or less, yes I know he was flying around different planets), and Boba Fett is set in Tattooine... the Kenobi show will probably be set in Tattooine...

    Are they getting a discount on the sets or something? I for one wouldn't mind seeing some other locations. The flashbacks to Kamino were refreshing as it was a break from the desert.



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    #223
    pixelburp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118473154#Comment_118473154

    I wouldn't agree about Mando - that show has visited plenty of other planets, really putting those LED "sets" to good work - but agree on the rest. Already moaned about it here anyway myself but yup, the desert gets a little repetitive and then some.

    It would run a little counter to the low-fi style of Star Wars, but it would be exciting to visit the upper echelons of the galaxy for a spell. The Last Jedi - and I realise I'm playing with fire invoking that film - hinted at it with the scenes on Camino. There's great story potential there; cos yeah, in a galaxy endlessly at war there'd be a humungous industry fuelling those conflicts.

    Or indeed: can we please visit Coruscant again sometime? With or without death sticks, it's fine. lol.



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    #224
    Sad Professor
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    I think a lot of SW iconography is inextricably linked to the desert which if not Tatooine usually ends up being some other world that looks a lot like Tatooine. And then there's the mythology which tends to lead them back there too.



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    #225
    pixelburp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118473395#Comment_118473395

    True. For good or bad, Star Wars is driven more by visual iconography than some core idea IMO; Tatoinne being a key pillar within that set of visual tropes. But when the show or films do stray away from Tatoinne (or the Mexican, non-union equivalents), it's always a thrill to visit other planets all the same. Often themselves a distinct, extreme biome (Hoth, Manda's lava planet etc.)



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    #226
    eviltimeban
    Registered Users Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    It's set in space though. The best parts of Mando were when he was on a space ship or space station. The Imperial uniforms / style of base is also an important part of SW iconography, that grey / black colour scheme. More of that.



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    #227
    Flinty997
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118473966#Comment_118473966

    I think Lucas was mainly a visual set piece director. He seems to string his movies together with Visual set pieces. Plot and story are secondary.



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    #228
    NIMAN
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469897#Comment_118469897

    Great comparison with BoBand Pacific.

    First was great show, very entertaining. With Pacific I think I stopped watching it at episode 4. Never went back to it.

    As I said, only think I'm persevering with Fett because it's Star Wars and no other reason.



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    #229
    EltonJohn69
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    https://youtu.be/WCsLIUcDbQ4


    Clearly the episode was referencing the George Costanza bike chase.



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    #230
    Flinty997
    Registered Users Posts: 11,627 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    In fairness the wookie was epic .



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    #231
    Bacchus
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    Weak episode alright. The wookie and seeing the Rankor were the only highlights. Nice tease though that Boba might ride the Rankor. As others have also said, it's getting extra forgiveness for being Star Wars. If this was an original series not tied to Star Wars I'd probably be dropping off now. I didn't even watch it until Friday whereas with Mando I'd watch it on release night.



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    #232
    flazio
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    https://youtu.be/fEyJeqmHwaA

    😁



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    #233
    Slydice
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    That kinda makes the scene feel more fast paced than I remember 😁



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    #234
    xper
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118465590#Comment_118465590

    I think Boba may have developed a dislike of Wookies somehow.

    Yeah, after a fairly pedestrian but okay episode 1 and 2 (though I think I nodded off momentarily and missed out of the train attack so need to go back and check that out again), episode 3 was a sharp downturn. I'm used to SW introducing cardboard side characters with a single line of dialog to establish a possibly life-endangering bond to the hero/protagonist so the recruitment of the biker gang I took on the chin.

    But Jesus, that space-vespa chase was desperate. The multi-colour gleaming bikes were a jarring these-are-only-here-to-sell-toys moment that, again, is something that happens in SW/Disney now and again but the execution of the chase is just unforgivably bad film making. At one point in it there was a side-on shot and I immediately thought of Dougal on the milk float - there's no going back from that, the episode was ruined for me.

    The virtual sets they came up with for The Mandalorian were outstanding but across all three episodes in this series so far there have been several scenes where you could really perceive the join between the physical set and the digital background. Maybe knowing how its being done now is part of it but I wonder, with the proliferation of SW shows in planning, has the talent/budget/time being assigned to creating these scenes been diluted. Also, I am not sure how much of the chase was fully CGI and how much was on set but I wonder was the virtual set dimensions or rendering capability of the live background a constraining factor in the slow speed of the action that ended up on screen?

    I am a bit meh about Temuera Morrison's performance as well. To be honest, Pedro (or his stand-ins) showed more emotion with the bloody helmet on all the time than this guy does without it. And I suspect that at 61 he's not really up to some of the action scenes.

    That said, there are positives - the At Home With The Tuskens storyline was well done and some of the characters and locations around Tatooine have been made interesting which is an achievement considering how much time we have spent on this rock.

    I'll keep watching to the end because its Star Wars and its only a few episodes but it'll need to pick up something seriously for me to be petitioning Disney for a second season.



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    #235
    Foxtrol
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    For all the blame about Disney and SW, I am getting more firm in the belief that SW are missing some level of oversight from Disney or a stronger figure in Lucasfilm someone that just says no to ridiculous things, like the vespa chase. SW in general struggles with trying to keep the 'look' of the CGI from the originals so even if the concept wasn't as stupid, it was going to be incredibly difficult to pull off with those limitations.

    Overall, I've found the show fine but hasn't given me a reason to get past my original skepticism that it was of any value when other stories could have been told. Seems like they were just opening themselves up to another bout of 'Not my Luke' complaints from fans who had made their own mental story for the character and were never going to buy into the story



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    #236
    gmisk
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    I have finally remembered who the mobility scooter gang reminded me off....

    Untitled Image




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    #237
    pixelburp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118483183#Comment_118483183

    Holy God biddy. Who OKed that ?



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    #238
    Flinty997
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    Who ever dreamed up the Vesta Gang hasn't a clue.



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    #239
    Tony EH
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    LOL

    Still haven't watched Ep3 yet (which says everything about my enthusiasm level for the show I spose) but, my god, that vespa gang chase isn't half getting a bollocking.



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    #240
    Glebee
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    Ep 3 started off ok and then Vespa gang thing was just silly. Its Disney just cashing in on Star Wars I fear.



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    #241
    gmisk
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490919#Comment_118490919

    Chase in mobility scooters...it's dreadful



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