BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

In a way . It's not gonna be the 17a as we know it , as once it hits the turn off for Ballymun it will go Straight down collins avenue all the way to howth road , where it will head then to l Clontarf DART station , east wall and into docklands.

Even the route that is covering most of the 17a , the N6 will only be covering the part from santry onwards. And will be using Charlestown and poppintree instead of finglas village and Ballymun main street

I regret that I have once again lost the phasing information about the orbitials, can't find it anywhere! anyone got it on-hand?😕

Thank you! but the O... not until mid '23? ah here

This article had said this month , but it's been changed to coming months

In the NTA of course.

I see the new green decal has appeared on some bus stops along the 17 route. September is an interesting choice to introduce the Southside orbitals given the return to schools and colleges. With the focus of several of the outgoing and incoming routes on UCD, it would make more sense to have them up and running before students are back and not change everything a couple of weeks into term. That said, given progress to date, the timeline will probably slip the other way anyway.

For all intents and purposes, June 2022 was listed in the W4/W6 tender as the latest takeover date, so not meeting that is grounds for whining about unfair tendering and contracting (from those who didn't win).

Better yet, has there been a single word about that tender's results? Any and all contracts should have been signed last year already.

Jaysus we can't even get the poles now!

That's crazy. Taking the 39a from town at that hour is usually 30 minutes if even to the other side of blanch centre.

Actually 2 outbound 39as passed me by in the space of 5 minutes at 2am the other night

The NTA putting up the newer poles along the 17 route along part of the N11 is not really regarded as new info IMO. They did put up new NTA bus poles out in Taney Road in Dundrum some time last year which may have been mentioned on this site before with photographic evidence to show for it.

I wonder why the NTA would replace poles bit by bit across Dublin when the proposed phases of the project are not supposed to be implemented for some time yet.

The S route rollout is the 1st phase of the project that's going to offering 2 of the new routes in my area once it goes live. However this phase is not supposed to go live for another 8 months from now.

And I'm sitting here thinking what is the rush with updating them so quickly when other parts of Dublin that are meant to have their BC routes going live soon who have not seen them up will probably not get them in their area for some time yet.

The supply chain issues that are currently in place arising from Covid are making this whole process very confusing at the moment. If you were strict and fair with this process you would update the bus poles in accordance with each phase of the project that is going live in each part of Dublin that are going to have to the new bus routes first with every subsequent set of bus poles rolled out for other phases thereafter.

We know that new bus poles are going out for the N4/N6 at the moment. But are we seeing any movements for now along the G spine routes that was meant to go live in June.

Also the bit about the NTA acquiring a new site for either a new temporary/permanent bus depot is very interesting news. If it's being tied up with the launch of the W4/W6 this year. Would it be opened in an area like West Dublin or Kildare? Do we know anything about the size of this new depot or how many buses are going to be stored in it for the new BC routes. Will it take up some legacy bus routes that are running now but be eventually scrapped from BC.

Cheers. I think it'd be a shame if they went back to 'Wanderly Wagon' routes at night. Personally I'm happier with a 39A that leaves me 1K walk from my house rather than the previous 39N which left me with just a 250-metre walk but only after a circuitous journey through D15.

Though I do acknowledge that the 'cant it just veer through this area/estate, it would only add 3 minutes to the journey' suggestions are difficult to argue with on an individual basis. They just make it an unpleasantly elongated trip for those who have to sit through multiples of such diversions.

I would've thought the B2 route would be more likely to be the route that would be 24 hours rather than the B1 as it covers a greater reach on the route but I suppose time would tell

It surprises me a lot that the NTA have decided to make all four C spine routes to make 24/7 once an hour. IMO this frequency is too great for Celbridge and Lucan/Adamstown (2 routes!). I would have left C5 (Maynooth route) on the N4 road skipping Chapelizod, and the C6 (Celbridge route) via Lucan Village and Chapelizod. Then I would have only made the C1 24/7 but extending after Adamstown Station to Dodsborough. I would have left the C2 day time only. All three routes at night would still make a frequency of 20 mins in comparison to the existing 15 mins.

They'll have to add an on-board urinal at that rate.