A lame duck, OT again and maybe a lady in a bubble: The Late Late Show 14th January 2022

This is the busiest the LLS thread has been in ages, and it's nothing to do with Tubs or the show.

I am really glad that the family have asked for privacy to grieve now.. I hope people respect it.

Sure, a lot of people who went out in support for Aisling are sincere - like her fellow musicians, sports persons, MI students and staff, colleagues et al.. but I have a Q around a lot of those groups/movements/organisations - perhaps using this tragedy as an opportunity to push their agendas?

I have to say, if I wer the family I would find some of it rather intrusive and not v respectful.. I dunno.. I am just being honest - thats my feeling on it..

But suffice to say I will never ever watch the Late late again - I rarely ever watch it.. usually just the Toy show but it was awful imo last yr.. I only tuned in last night cos I thought Brenda Fricker was gonna be on it..

I went to bed in disgust.

Please don't get me wrong.. I have nothing but sympathy for Aisling's family and friends.. but all this talk of "women aren't safe".. implying that "men" are dangerous..

This perpetrator is indeed most probably a man.. wow - what are the chances.. its gonna be male or female! And yes most murderers are male. But this was one sick nasty individual or what ever (remains to be seen).. who is probably a man.

Men are targets too to such crimes - this time it was unfortunately a woman (RIP Aisling)..

RIP to all the deceased (male and female) who have lost their lives unprovoked as a result of the actions of nasty sick people..

RANT OVER. HUH.

What do you mean by the last sentence?

The mods haven't woken up yet or spotted this chat under the LLS thread.

They would shut down any such conversation about the ongoing case

Years ago, a very serious murder happened to two well respected individuals, a father and son. They had made friends with their murderer, to the point where he was seen as a family friend. Well, he had issues as well (I think he drank and may have had some form of psychosis- a bad combination). Then murdered them in their home. He was convicted two years later, and won't be seeing daylight for the rest of his days.

After he was arrested, a bunch of locals got together, and went to his family's home. He obviously wasn't there, so they attacked his brother instead. Assaulted him so badly, he ended up in hospital. (Not the brightest people, but then intelligent people don't do what they did). The murderer's parents, and siblings, suffered greatly afterwards, both in terms of health, and by locals. It's very dangerous to cast suspicion on an individual, especially in an area where everybody knows everybody. For someone who's innocent, it's far worse.

I heard about her. Even said some ridiculous stuff like Men bringing flowers to the vigil 'was a start'... What? It's casting them in a bad light before this, then saying 'ah, they brought flowers-they're learning'.

Not what I meant. Just because they have access to those images, doesn't mean they should use them so easily. I want to know were the family even consulted before they splashed her photo all over the place, within 24 hours of her murder?

No, I mean discussing an ongoing murder investigation.

They are usually shut down quickly.

Go and check AFTER HOURS or the CURRENT AFFAIRS forums and see if there is anything discussing the case.

You go back and read the thread.

There are comments here saying (about comments in the Late Late show, ) oh, there's a women on the show saying “banter” is abuse and others guess we will have oi delete our lads whattsapp (ha ha), other deregotory comments saying a woman on the show must be a closet lesbian (wtf). Even on a thread about the show focusing on why women don't feel safe?

Well, maybe don't "banter" with people out minding their own business, and yes, delete your toxic group (whoever has one).

Many of the conversations had this week are about how women don't feel safe out walking, jogging etc. That is what this coversation has opened. I've seen people I know open up about incidents that happened to them and feel its time now to STOP it.

Not all of it because they feel they are going to be murdered, but because they don't want to wear their jogging shorts or cycling shorts because of the kind of comments and "banter" they get. Well, your banter is unwanted and just stop. And instead of calling out the women who call it out, maybe call out the men who do it.

The assumption here is ha, ha, they will be sorry they blamed "us" because a "fordener" did it, but you are missing the bigger point.

Oh sorry I forgot, only bad things happen to women and only men do the bad things.

CSO stats 2019

81% of murder victims were men

89% of sexual assaults were women

59% of assault victims were men

87% of violent assault and 98% of sexual assault perpetrators were male

What form did this abuse take? Shocking if substantiated.

Was it reported to the guards?