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Why is Dublin such a shιtty city?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,155 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Just reading that Clerys development has two so called "upmarket" tenants now. Maybe that'll raise the tone a bit lol. Also Moore Street/Carlton is going ahead which hopefully will vastly improve that end of the wasteland.

    What I think could be improved is the incentivisation of outdoor coffee/eats. There is nothing like a few umbrellas and tables to instantly make a place look great. Think of O'Connell Street, vast wide pavements and a central median with.... nothing but pedestrians and Luas and bus stops. Sad isn't it. Look I know the doom mongers will say "ah jasus you couldn't sit outside there you'd be demented with the tappers" etc. but sometimes a different approach/use of a street makes its own success. Anyway tappers would need a card machine these days as few carry cash anymore.

    There are hardly any cafes with outdoor seating in -

    O'Connell Street

    Grafton Street

    Dame Street

    St Stephen's Green and etc. and so on. I think it would make a huge difference to introduce it where feasible. But that's the thing, it takes so long to get any imaginative thing done in Dublin, you would despair. It took the pandemic to allow and encourage outdoor seating but really only in Capel, Parliament, and Sth. William Streets, good as that is. It should be far more widespread and encouraged. And they are still wrangling over the Plaza at Trinity. Honestly.

    I agree that Metro police and Transport police are vital now, so get on with it please.

    I suppose we cannot for a minute mention moving homeless out of their tents on the main thoroughfares and clean the place up, because that would be so non woke and non PC, but hang on, surely there are more homeless charidees than tents now and no one is obliged to sleep on the streets. Policy and a quality of life for ALL should be the mantra, not for the few who should not be there. DCC and their by laws huh.

    So folks, Dublin has great potential but (sorry now) appears to have a load of homesick resentful boggers running it who don't care much about us really. If it's not them it's the lefties and SF who are against everything and for nothing just because they can.

    I will await developments and am hopeful for improvement soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Nevin Parsnipp


    Excellent post pilgrim....clean capped most of the major issues...the centre of a capital city should be commercial oriented ...not a fcuckin museum run by non commercial drones .

    Most especially not the relatives of any particular clique ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,475 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    @saabsaab Get on to Musk or Bezos to relocate Dublin to the Moon - or maybe Mars. Would that be far enough away for you?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Posts: 563 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You'll actually find there's incessant whining about Dublin, Cork and Limerick. Ireland has a huge anti-urban bias and you really notice it if you've moved back here form somewhere else.

    Galway escapes by being in "the West" and Waterford seems to not register.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,931 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Much easier for me to move! Anyway what would take its place?



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  • Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can't say I have ever heard an Irish person complaining about Cork or Limerick very much. In my place of employment, we hire graduates from all around the country, with many who studied in UCC, CIT, or UL. The feedback I hear pretty consistently is that many of them would have preferred to stay in Cork or Limerick (even if not originally from there), rather than relocate to Dublin. However, most of them are pragmatic and understand that the opportunities for career growth and to increase their earning potential, only exist in Dublin.

    Interestingly, the complaints I have heard about regional cities have been from foreigners / immigrants / ex-pats. I know several who moved to Ireland to work in Cork, Limerick etc.. but re-located to Dublin within a year or two. Most common reasons for doing so were that they found the locals cliquey and couldn't form friendships; there were few, if any of their fellow nationals there; found the place too small and provincial; lack of access to an airport with really good connectivity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    No don't do that. The moon might get angry and retaliate by crashing into the earth like that new film Moonfall. 🤣



  • Posts: 563 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You should see some of the stuff written about Cork online at times. I remember during floods people posting things about how they hoped it sank and all sorts of stuff and they weren’t from Dublin either. Mostly seemed to be from the midlands.

    Limerick gets ripped into all the time - people going on about it being a dump, stab city etc mostly by people who’ve never set foot in it.



  • Posts: 471 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If someone dropped their pants and took a **** beside ya when walking you'd think that's normal now because of the heroin constipation. I've often walked past human ****. Its a weekly occurence now really.

    I'd rather chop off my arm than live there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    Some of Dublin city centre is a rough filthy kip, it's clear to see. Last time I was there was October because I avoid it. I went through it on a bus from the airport and saw a scobe lying on the ground out of it by the Halfpenny bridge with two Guards standing over him and walking dead junkies hanging around looking on. A lovely sight for tourists arriving to the city! The quays looked grey, dirty and half deserted. A huge change from beautiful vibrant Amsterdam I had left where I've never felt unsafe and the only antisocial behaviour I've ever seen are English louts and other tourists not being able to hold their drink.

    For me the biggest difference between Dublin and other cities in Europe I've lived is you had to go outside the city centre to a suburb to find any problem areas (except Stuttgart which I found extremely safe apart from a few dodgy looking types that never bothered me at the train stations), whereas in Dublin there are some safe areas in the city and others I won't go near even in daylight. Also the junkies, alcoholics and homeless are much more apparent in Dublin. In other cities I've lived the police don't allow them sleep in doorways or pester people and anti-social behaviour is swiftly dealt with.

    Of course there are cities across Europe and the US with many problems, but should we be satisfied to be "no worse than them" or should we be comparing ourselves to the cleanest safest cities elsewhere in Europe and aiming to be as good as them?

    Personally I would not live in Dublin if I was given a 10 bed mansion in Howth because much of the city centre and public transport is no-go as a lone female at night especially so what's the point when I have to be always on guard and watch where I go there? For when I want a safe city experience I wait to go back to Germany, Netherlands or Sweden.



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  • Posts: 563 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was walking though Brussels and a guy in a suit just unzipped and took a slash straight into the kerb, about 3 min walk from the European Commission.

    I also got welcomed to Paris by a guy wandering into the RER-B drinking a bottle of wine and then taking a slash all over the seats, including someone’s luggage.

    Quite a lot of French, Belgian and German cities have so much graffiti you can barely see out the train windows.

    I was on a tram in Nantes and a guy kicked out the window! Just swung off the bars.

    Dublin has its moments but so do plenty of other cities in Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    Totally agree, even the atmosphere in Dublin is off, its not somewhere I ever want to hang around. Theres also nothing to do in the city, its full of hostels, hotels and English language schools. The rent prices and general cost of living in Dublin isnt justified because its not a nice place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    Graffiti doesn't bother me if the city is safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    "Safety for women is much higher in Dublin than anywhere else in Europe." You must be joking. There are lots of cities I would feel far more safe walking through than Dublin. Paris is one city, not representative of all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭FromADistance


    I've lived in Dublin for 21 years, am from the West of Ireland, went to college here, work here & am now married to a Dub. My formative years were spent living on the southside... the longest stretch living in Ranelagh between 2006 to 2017. I then bought a house on the Northside (with my girlfriend now wife) and here I am 4 years later. The best years of my life have been spent in Dublin but I'm not sure if it's going to stay that way.

    I miss the days of being able to walk into town on a Saturday from Ranelagh to Keoghs, have a few pints of Guinness and walk home later (via Coppers)... I also miss the freedom of the country but know the same opportunities are not just not there. I despise how expensive this city has become to live in but know that I have friends and family who live in equally, if not more expensive places around the world.

    Let's be honest, for a man from a fairly modest background, I've been blessed to live in middle to upper class areas of Dublin where Iife is pretty peaceful. That's not everyones experience. I don't know would I be able to do all the things I've done in 20 years if I was 18 now & starting out adult life in Dublin.

    With the benefit of experience, Dublin is a grand city to live in now if you're young, free, rich and single. As a married man now with children, I'm not exactly enthused about bringing up children in the city and if the opportunity comes I'd be tempted to move to Meath or somewhere close to Dublin.



  • Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There’s nothing to do in the city - Jesus wept.



  • Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe, but like in Ireland and Dublin, mostly the people who don’t like London don’t live in London and never will.



  • Posts: 563 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well, don’t walk around certain parts of Paris or Brussels then - neither are particularly safe. There have been a few times in French cities I’ve had to make very quick exits. Stuff like two gangs facing off at either side of a residential street.

    I felt a lot safer in most Spanish cities than anywhere in France.

    I don’t feel particularly worried walking through most of Dublin, once you avoid a few known and lonely hotspots which are mostly in Dublin 1 and a few dodgy spots. The challenging aspect is if you’re not familiar with Dublin you could walk straight into them as they’re very central.

    Even as a 6ft+ guy, I won’t wander around a few places in the city centre at night. I’ve just had too many weird experiences of being shouted at, pestered for cash or a light, including being followed for ages.

    For me, once it goes quiet, wouldn’t be too keen on wandering around the quays, the area between the four courts and Smithfield or anywhere off the east side of O’Connell St.

    Can’t say anywhere else is particularly intimidating … seems to be a bit of an issue with incidents of mostly teens harassing cyclists / walkers tho in a few spots on secluded greenways. That’s a lack of Garda presence. Those routes should be patrolled occasionally.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    Compared to every other city in Europe Dublin is extremely basic and run of the mill.



  • Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This has to one of the most moronic comments I’ve ever read on Boards and God knows, the bar is pretty low.



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  • Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    every other city? Really? Look there are legit complaints about Dublin but “nothing to do” isn’t one of them, particular coming from our rural brethren.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    It’s OK OP, the James Webb Space Telescope is mapping out another city for you as I type. I think it could be in a different Star System or even another Galaxy, or with a bit of of luck… another Universe. Enjoy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,475 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    The OP is more or less a hit-and-run bridge dweller. Don't hold your breath for a reply.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Another day, another suspended sentence for violent crime from a repeat offender. When the **** are they gonna start cracking down on these scums?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    There are a couple of things that annoy me aboout these threads.

    Firstly, if the person who posted this thread lives in Dublin then why don't they leave? If they hate Dublin so much then staying here can't be a good idea.

    Secondly, from what I've read (and I haven't read the whole thread) I've read very little in the way of ideas or suggestions for improvements. Throw some ideas out there. A lot of the points that you raise are valid and need to be addressed but lets have some ideas.

    What would you do to make the city a more attractive place to be?

    I was born and raised here and only a fool would argue that Dublin is perfect but it isn't mogadishu either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    That's a very valid argument. Dublin, for the most part is a tremendous city. For a capital city of it's size it has a tremendous amount to offer.

    Again, nobody can argue that it doesnt have it's issues but I think it has more than it's fair share of good spots.

    I was doing a bit if work for a relative out in Howth and I'd move there in the morning if I could.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭manonboard


    The privilege's of having tits. The leniency shown to women in court criminal cases is appalling. 150 hours community services for assaulting someone causing harm, which he must of been pretty bad since she could go through his pockets to get his phone.

    21 previous convictions. You are correct. The absolute disgusting criminal system we have is a huge reason why society maintains terrible problems at those levels. 21 convictions! It multiple times per year in court on different charges at her age. Total scum bag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    For me, the criminal justice system is probably the single greatest issue we have in this country. There are others.

    This would be a good place to start

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,150 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I mean if we were to use specific crimes to say somewhere is a sh*thole it would write off most places in Ireland even lately. Women attacked in Kilkenny and Cork in recent days, woman killed in Athlone...

    It almost seems like the whole country suffers from the same issues yet they are more apparent in the most populated part of the country, who'd have thunk it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    that is absolutely shocking my god imagine that was a man on a woman aswell, i feel sorry for her kids having that as a mother



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