Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

King Mob · 13-01-2022 3:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467682#Comment_118467682

So the microchips you believe are/will be in vaccines will keep time?

Is this on top of making people magnetic, or is that a different secret ingredient?

robinph · 13-01-2022 3:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467682#Comment_118467682

So the vaccine is now clockwork then?

Lex Luthor · 13-01-2022 3:17pm

The question that needs to be asked is, "is there something or somethings in the shot that could be contributing to the observations that we are seeing (athletes and fans dropping during matches for example).

That would be a normal scientific method

Then you have to assess the shots by understanding what is actually in them and their ingredients and looking at the chemical makeup and using that information to try to understand the effects of these chemicals would have on the human body

As far as I know there is no study isolating or disclosure of the full list of ingredients in these shots so they can be tested for safety and any biological effects on the body in the short or long term, yet we keep hearing from them, the manufacturers that they are safe

So now you have your observation in the real world differing from what they say, do you pay attention to what the manufacturers or the authority are saying or do you go with your observations and question further?

Lex Luthor · 13-01-2022 3:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467706#Comment_118467706

not worth answering

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-01-2022 3:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467682#Comment_118467682

Wind up watches tend to not need batteries.

Wind up merchants tend to not need proof or evidence.

Fighting Tao · 13-01-2022 3:25pm

Are we back to RFID chips that the US government use to control Navy Seals when on missions on the other side of the world?

robinph · 13-01-2022 3:27pm

The ingredients of the vaccines are listed publicly. Which ingredients is it that you are concerned about?

I've seen no mention of any clockwork mechanisms being included in any of the vaccines.

Timberrrrrrrr · 13-01-2022 3:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467860#Comment_118467860

Not yet, but just watch!!

I'll get me coat

King Mob · 13-01-2022 3:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467781#Comment_118467781

Lol. No, it is.

You are your buddies are making all of these wild claims.

If you don't want to be lumped together, then maybe you just state that you don't believe those conspiracy theories.

Claiming that there are or will be mircochips in the vaccine is on the same level as the people claiming that they make you magnetic.

Same level of silly. Same level of understanding of science. Same inability to explain the details.

King Mob · 13-01-2022 3:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467764#Comment_118467764

But those observations don't actually seem to be true in the first place.

As we've seen when your pal claimed this a few pages ago, the number of these people "dropping during matches" does not seem to be all that unusual compared to other years. And at the same time, you and other anti vaxxers haven't actually shown that these people did have the vaccines, never mind linking the events to the vaccines.

If these things aren't actually happening, what's to explain?

The ingredients of the vaccines are know and they are easy to look up.

You have to invent a giant global conspiracy to pretend that there's secret ingredients in the vaccines.

And even then, you can't point out what might be in the vaccines that would cause people at sporting events in particular to drop dead.

Nor can you explain why this is occuring. Is it part of the conspiracy's plan to kill people in this way? Is it to do with the microchips/magnetism causing nanotech? Are these just good christians who are being raptured after getting the mark of the beast?

You won't explain. Because your theory is vague and fictional.

King Mob · 13-01-2022 3:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467761#Comment_118467761

Nano-magnetic-satanic-clockwork...

Hoop66 · 13-01-2022 3:49pm

Nano-magnetic-satanic-clockwork there, and we'll have two more in session from them later. Now here's The Fall...

robinph · 13-01-2022 3:50pm

People are collapsing at football matches because they forgot to wind up the clockwork battery for their vaccine watch, and the extra drain on the power of their arm holding the pliers to their shoulders with electro magnets whilst in a football stadium where more people are around them and making use of the 5G transmitter, that was also in the vaccines, to check the odds on the betting site causes them to have a heart attack.

It's obvious if you just do your own research. And it's all because Bill Gates doesn't like football.

King Mob · 13-01-2022 3:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468098#Comment_118468098

Actually yea. Bagsy that as my band name.

King Mob · 13-01-2022 3:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468113#Comment_118468113

So actual question. Why are conspiracy theorists bringing up this idea that people at sporting events are dying from the vaccine?

I understand how players might have a higher risk of randomly dropping dead due to heart stuff, and this being more news wprthy would get into the media to be twisted by grifters.

But it seems now they're also claiming it about spectators too. I don't understand where that's coming from.

odyssey06 · 13-01-2022 4:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468146#Comment_118468146

“A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.”—Mark Twain

Invent a lie that will register with people - sports fans remember these recent incidents that got coverage, have likely forgotten past ones \ past ones didn't get so much coverage.

Hard for people to refute it because where do you find statistics on something like that.

Maewyn Succat · 13-01-2022 4:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467682#Comment_118467682

I'll leave it up to you to figure out how it works and why the same technology couldn't be implanted in someone without their knowledge.

sydthebeat · 13-01-2022 4:13pm

Hang on, have we actually moved to "vaccines contain analogue clockwork"

????

Maewyn Succat · 13-01-2022 4:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467316#Comment_118467316

Do you believe that if cigarettes were invented tomorrow medical professionals would promote them?

I think the world has moved on just a little bit in comparison to a time without internet, ability to research and have it peer reviewed quickly, easy access to information and studies, computer modelling and all the other things that help with modern medicine.

King Mob · 13-01-2022 4:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468305#Comment_118468305

I don't think so.

Lex claimed that the microchips that are/will be in vaccines could be powered by the same technology as is in his watch.

He hasn't realised why this is a ridiculous thing to claim and he isn't explaining i any more detail and is probably about to storm away from the claim in a huff.

robinph · 13-01-2022 4:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468305#Comment_118468305

Yup. It's proved due to @Lex Luthor having a watch without a battery but it still tells the time. Could be a kinetic watch, but they contain batteries still even though they don't need replacing.

It's truly amazing what they can fit into vaccines these days.

Not sure if there is any issue with the clockwork mechanisms getting messed up by @harrylittle and the magnets, but there must be a simple explanation for that problem.

Retr0gamer · 13-01-2022 4:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118467316#Comment_118467316

They weren't duped. Lobby groups and business interests were pushing a false narrative that the gullible followed not realising they were being duped. It was scientists that found the data, exposed it and pressured governments to accept the truth and act on it.

It's kind of like how right wingers and crazies are promoting anti-vaccine theories for political gain and notoriety and the gullible are swallowing it wholesale when the scientists have mountains of independent data that shows that it's nonsense.

charlie_says · 13-01-2022 4:39pm

That absolute den on consiparcy theorists in Oxford University have analysed data of 42 million vaccinated individuals in the UK and found the rates of myocarditis to be multiples of the normal or post covid rate in the vaccinated males under 40

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1

Lex Luthor · 13-01-2022 4:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468474#Comment_118468474

nothing to see here

King Mob · 13-01-2022 4:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468474#Comment_118468474

So according to that chart the chances of it occurring looks to be 7.6 in 1 million for the Pfizer vaccine and 16.5 in 1 million.

But "16 times greater" does sound a whole lot scarier.

Maewyn Succat · 13-01-2022 5:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468474#Comment_118468474

I assume all of the 42 million were checked for myocarditis prior to being vaccinated? Any idea when the study will be peer reviewed?

odyssey06 · 13-01-2022 5:20pm

Re: the Oxford study

Isn't that one of the reasons why Moderna is not given to under 30s here?

And it's worth bearing in mind the comparisons of the vaccine versus Covid infection, and that is just on the categories of myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmia:

First, there was an increase in the risk of myocarditis within a week of receiving the first dose of both adenovirus and mRNA vaccines, and a higher increased risk after the second dose of both mRNA vaccines. In contrast, we found no evidence of an increase in the risk of pericarditis or cardiac arrhythmias following vaccination, except in the 1–28 days following a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine. Second, in the same population, there was a greater risk of myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmia following SARS-CoV-2 infection. Third, the increased risk of myocarditis after vaccination was higher in persons aged under 40 years. We estimated extra myocarditis events to be between 1 and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection...

Vaccination for SARS-CoV-2 in adults was associated with a small increase in the risk of myocarditis within a week of receiving the first dose of both adenovirus and mRNA vaccines, and after the second dose of both mRNA vaccines. By contrast, SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a substantial increase in the risk of hospitalization or death from myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmia.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0

Dohnjoe · 13-01-2022 5:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468755#Comment_118468755

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468680#Comment_118468680

Been reading about this, yes the study is quite limited, also doesn't state whether the myocarditis was serious or not. We're talking handfuls of cases out of millions here also. Would like to see comparisons with other countries.

Dohnjoe · 13-01-2022 5:28pm

US is experiencing record numbers of hospital cases related to Covid, whereas most of the rest of the world is relatively lower. Prepare for the made-up conspiracy explanations in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2..

charlie_says · 13-01-2022 9:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468578#Comment_118468578

It says 0.59/million as pre risk

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