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The Omicron variant

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,225 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I think I heard that just having had the common cold in the past year can also be beneficial


    That might be fairly academic at this stage though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    A really heavy cold can feel a lot like influenza but without the fever. Omicron symptoms can vary between those two. I had a really bad cold some years ago which lasted for 3 weeks. I usually prefer proper influenza to that, 3 to 4 days then gone though some suffer for longer.

    Can i just state that people w Omikron infections DO have mostly cold like symptoms, that some have influenza like symptoms, that most symptoms last under 5 days. So, it is not 'just a cold' but neither affects a great many severely or for long or kills a lot of people. And end that ridiculous spat between the ignorant and arrogant? And the definition of 'lockdown'?

    Probably not 🙂

    Post edited by deholleboom on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    Though you can still get a high temperature with a cold. According to the HSE:

    "Cold symptoms can include:

    blocked or runny nose

    sore throat

    headaches

    muscle aches

    coughs

    sneezing

    a raised temperature

    pressure in your ears and face

    loss of taste and smell"

    Interesting also that the loss of taste and smell is not unique to Covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    I DID have a raised temperature which usually comes with inflammation. Technically that is a fever. But anyone who has ever had influenza will know the difference. Bedridden fever..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭The DayDream


    I have it currently, 2 jabs no booster.

    It is nothing like any cold or flu I've ever had. Symptoms much more severe and long lasting. 1sr 24 hrs every muscle in my back hurt and I was so fatigued I could barely muster the strength to get out of bed to go to the bathroom.

    Lungs feel awful in a way i never had with a cold or flu.

    My colleague who also has it is asymptomatic. It affects everyone differently. Interestingly when we got jabbed I got really sick from that he got no side effects.

    But downplaying it like it's just a cold is wrong. If I was older or had underlying health issues I'd be very worried about this still. As is I'm worried about long lasting effects on my lungs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    Symptoms and Sequelae

    Disclaimer: - Not an MD, PhD achieved doctorate.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    THe opposite of nearly everyone in Ireland who got it who have said its like a mild cold



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Mad how the conversation to help poorer countries with vaccines for their most vulnerable has stopped. Wealthy countries will be heading for dose no4 soon while health systems struggle elsewhere. We’re vaccinating kids and giving boosters to beat the band against WHO advice? Doesn’t make sense.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The experience on the ground has been a near complete disinterest in taking the vaccine in many poorer countries, even when provided for free to medical workers it has seen a near zero uptake in Africa.


    Interestingly enough 2 of the highest vaccination rates are in 2 of Africa's poorest countries, Zimbabwe and Burundi, will not money or supply is the challenge.


    The conversation was largely ego driven.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I've seen several doctors say in the last day or so that it is in and around the same level of severity as the original Wuhan variant in early 2020. The big difference of course is that nobody was vaccinated back then, meaning it was potentially deadly for very elderly people or those with underlying conditions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,110 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    It makes sense politically.

    FFFG/Greens can claim they saved your granny while the general public and the media will ignore that better use could be put to those vaccines in poorer countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭The DayDream


    I guess I'm just making it up for the craic.

    Have you had it? How many of the 20k+ people per day getting it have you talked to to be able to say 'everybody'.

    I have talked to some people who have said it's not bad, but that's not how it's been for me.

    It's the people who have problems with masks, vaccines and lockdowns, conservative tory types and people who have money in the stock market who are pushing this 'mild cold' narrative IMO.

    A mild cold doesn't take this long to get over and I've never had a constant 24 hr headache with a cold.

    Like I said the bad side effects from the jab if you had them it wasn't anything like a cold and that is what actually having covid felt like the 1st 24 hrs plus a sore throat and headache.



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cyprus is apparently now reporting a variant that has elements of both Omicron and Delta. Hopefully, also a lot weaker, but very little data.

    As much as I would love to say this is over, we’d still want to at least keep monitoring the situation very carefully.

    Hopefully omicron might be adding to the layers of immunity in a broad way, but I still wouldn’t call this just yet.

    The ICU figures seem to be very stable and manageable though - looks optimistic🤞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,225 ✭✭✭amandstu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,225 ✭✭✭amandstu


    What grounds for hope that it may be less virulent?



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just hope - it doesn’t need grounds. So far, as I said, data is very limited. If it’s combined the transmissibility and the virulence, that obviously isn’t good, but it may not have.

    These are random mutations and combinations. If it works for the virus, or could be anything.

    There’s some hope that the general trajectory might be towards less virulent strains, but there’s very little to support that as being the only path it might take. That’s why I think making premature pronouncements that it’s over is just a recipe for disappointment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭The DayDream


    The WHO has said we should stop calling Omicron mild as well




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    I think there might be some relation between those who had bad side effects from both a Covid vaccine and got infected by a variant. I wonder how much worse an infection might have been without the prior vaccination. One would never know because the experiment cannot be replicated but i suspect a strong correlation between the two. If the body reacts badly from a small dose spike protein vaccine (apart from the trombosis part) it is very likely that it would go bananas from the antigen with a high viral load. Maybe be glad you didnt get Delta but Omicron. It could have been much worse..

    Post edited by deholleboom on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,289 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭MizMix


    Likewise I have it at the moment - started with sore throat. Felt like a bad head cold but I did have a very dodgy afternoon yesterday - full on fever, aches, heart racing and couldn’t leave bed. I’m early 40s, fit, healthy, lower end of ‘healthy weight’ etc. now it only lasted a few hours, the fever broke and I felt ok again. But for me - even if short lived it’s more than a mild cold. I was yet to get my booster though so I assume if I’d gotten my booster my symptoms may have been milder



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭cannonballTaffyOjones


    of course, they don't want the fear mongering to end ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    my wife tested positive pcr last week because junior had a positive antigen before going back to school , nobody has any symptoms, so basically our house it thrown into choas because of a false positive antigen. Its starting to look like a testemic at this stage.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,289 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    But you had two positives including a PCR? What's false?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    junior did an antigen first which was +, on the basis of that we all did an antigen, my wife was positive on that too, so junior and my wife did a pcr and my wife was positive with that, junior was negative. Nobody has any symptoms so if it wasnt for the first false positive antigen we would have been none the wiser.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭RavenBea17b


    Hope you didn't wait too long for your PCR.

    Thing about antigen tests, they pick up the virus for a shorter duration of time window, hence the test regularly, every two/three days. Maybe your little lad tested positive, but on confirmation test he was no longer infectious, whereas your wife was still infectious window.

    Hope you all feeling ok, it can be very very unpleasant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭RavenBea17b


    interesting tweet from UK Dept Health and Social care about treatments for Covid.

    https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1479513165423681540



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I had a couple of work collagues that had a bad dose in Nov, anything Ive heard of since xmas is a bit of a cold for a day or 2 which Im putting down to Omicron taking over. It looks like my wife is asymptomatic and junior must have been if he had though false positive is likely too.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭The DayDream


    Calling it a 'testemic' because the 2 people who tested positive in your house were asymptomatic, good lord. And then you're inexplicably convinced they are false positives.

    23k+ people per day are testing positive. At least half of those must be getting tests because they have symptoms.

    I guess you would have to get it yourself and be sick as a dog to be convinced, but that's the boat I'm in and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.



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