The Omicron variant

corkie

O-mic(e)-ron

- Mouse Origin, Future Variants Jumping Back Into Humans, And Update On DELTACRON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96F0raZxYiw

Good disclaimer on these videos, read in description instead of pausing.

deholleboom

Is this thread stalled or are people simply not posting? Still on page 113.

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Pat Kenny, who's not a stupid man, but seems to have turned into Jane Austen's Mr Woodhouse (a hypochondriac) had Kingston Mills on.

PK "we need to be careful with Omnicron. My wife came across an account of a person who died from it so it is killing people. I'm not sure if it was Delta or Omnicron but..."

No wonder Sinn Fein were able to torpedo Sean Gallagher's presidential campaign with that level of information sourcing and fact checking

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118454283#Comment_118454283

There is a limited amount one can say about a single variant and most has been posted already. The main thread and the crazy restrictions thread are the only ones that have kept a constant level of activity going.

corkie

Omicron

- Incubation And Contagious Period (Vaccinated, Unvaccinated, Previously Infected)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5gldSCTkmw

@deholleboom @is_that_so

No comments on 'echo chamber' posts or waffle about 'Long Covid' etc in this thread.

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118454834#Comment_118454834

Nope but it does have posters with a yen for random YouTube videos supposedly saying something something! Every thread is full of crap betimes!

deholleboom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118454457#Comment_118454457

The trouble is that the general public just gobble this up. It is clearly a message aimed at 'it is only a cold, so..' crowd. Maybe you should see it as ad on a billboard, not aimed at you. Just stop listening to PK. It should come as no surprise and you only aggrevate yourself. This kind of framing is widespread and treats people as children to be taught a lesson. Most people lead busy lives and only read or watch the headlines. Face value IS a thing.

'You know, my wife knows somebody who's husband has died of the flu. People DIE of the flu you know. It is KILLING people.' Your right, it is on that level. I dont blame people who dont see through that. I blame intelligent, selfrighteous people like Pat Kenny feeling the need to educate the ignorant with shameful simpleton messaging knowing full well what they are doing. A journalist should question people in power and authority, not using them to spread a message. You should leave that up to politicians. But hey, that is what a 'consensus' really comes down to..

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118451754#Comment_118451754

Saved by the mice.

Who knew Hitchhiker's Guide was non-fiction?

corkie

@MilkyToast

Gave your post a 'Thanks!'

Lets see how long your post stays up?

corkie

Youtube: - Dr J. Campbell ~ US record breaking cases and hospitalizations

^^^ Europe and UK, mentioned as well.

Still sharing even with someone mocking my posting of these videos.

political analyst

If the hospitalisation rate for Omicron is low in South Africa, where the percentage of the population who are vaccinated is very low, then it stands to reason that Omicron is even less likely to cause death or serious harm here in Ireland, because over 80% of the population of our republic are fully vaccinated.

deholleboom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118457606#Comment_118457606

No matter which variables one is using everyone should now just accept that trajectory of Omicron in various countries roughly follow the same pattern as RSA as people have stated from as early as mid december. There are still people resisting this idea. First it was 'not enough data' and 'different variables in different countries' and now it is 'look at the high case numbers'. WHO first calling it mild then the opposite because that is not the message they want people to get. People are still doing their calculations based on dated variables and wont accept that they have lost the argument some time ago. Instead it is continued virtue signalling with either simplistic or misleading presentations/ reports.

The truth is that every country will follow the same pattern. London was first in line for Omicron. Cases, hospitalisations peaked on january 4. The rest will follow a little later.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=nhsRegion&areaName=London#card-reproduction_number_r_and_growth_rate

Rebelbrowser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456277#Comment_118456277

Apparently the Dolphins are working on a further new variant....

AdrianG08

Took a PCR test on 22nd December along with my son who had symptoms (I had none) and on 24th were notified we were both positive for Covid.

We isolated for more than 10 days, I have had any symptoms, never failed an antigen test either.

In last 24 hours (11th Jan) I have developed symptoms, took an antigen test out of curiosity and it's showing 2 lines, what the hell?

I know it could be the 2 different variants, but I've been working from home, no visitors etc... Been to the doctor with our other child on back of completing isolation during the week, proof of positive test etc...

Do I need another PCR? They only give you 1 down here

corkie

Where does it say you only can get tested once?

I know it says your limited to 1 per person on booking site.

But is that just for the same day/week/month?

ceadaoin.

From the head of the CDC. Predictably, the comments are full of people who cant accept this positive information

https://mobile.twitter.com/CDCDirector/status/1481315911843856387

daydorunrun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118464564#Comment_118464564

That’s a helluva tweet!!

Game over, blow it up ref.

comments are gas- ‘You’re gonna give the unvaxxed a free pass’ Imagine being more concerned with a witch hunt against unvaccinated than being happy at genuinely game changing news for humanity by way of the end quite literally coming into sight!

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118464564#Comment_118464564

That's great to see, I was digging through for the vaxxed/unvaxxed data but it wasn't recorded there, but did find this, will be interesting if we see the same thing in Ireland and our high vax rate turns out to be keeping us stable, or we find it doesn't matter at all (and can drop certs etc.):

https://twitter.com/OrchidNYC/status/1481354923069558786

dominatinMC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118464564#Comment_118464564

Great news and good data. Some of the replies resemble those you'd see on this thread

corkie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118464564#Comment_118464564

International data agrees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrVGymR-jFU

A look at not peer reviewed paper linked in the above tweet. I surprised someone has not commented on 'Competing Interest Statement' and the source of funding?

ceadaoin.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118464868#Comment_118464868

Regarding vaxxed or unvaxxed, they stated:

"Reductions in disease severity associated with Omicron variant infections were evident among both vaccinated and unvaccinated patients, and among those with or without documented prior SARS-CoV-2 infection"

No details though. It does appear omicron is mild regardless of vaccine status, as we have known since the data from south africa.

deholleboom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118465097#Comment_118465097

It is interesting to note the still lingering 'wait and see' approach. Yesterday another interview on bbc4 w someone saying that we will have to wait and see as now there seem to be more 50 and 60 year olds coming in with Omicron infections. I do get the feeling those in healthcare would like to resist any lifting of restrictions as long as possible. In their position that makes sense. So any conclusions about Omicron delayed is good for them. The media is very good in supplying a steady amount of 'on the ground' reporting. They have moved away from actual hospital footage as it is not dramatic enough..

discostu1

Saw this on twitter from the Glasgow Herald

Covid Scotland: Case rates lowest in unvaccinated as double-jabbed elderly drive rise in hospital admissions

I think this might help read the whole article

12ft | Covid Scotland: Case rates lowest in unvaccinated as double-jabbed elderly drive rise in hospital admissions | HeraldScotland

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118447319#Comment_118447319

Anyone else got information overload?

copeyhagen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118464782#Comment_118464782

"what about long covid..." haha

corkie

Omicron

- More Comprehensive Severity Data Out Of South Africa (Vaccinated and Unvaccinated)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o27KbL05jD8

US hospital concerns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1R09yIKqq4

Two neat categories, with and for ~ false dichotomy?

So, its 3 categories

• For covid
• With covid that exacerbated a chronic condition
• Truly incidentals

^^^ https://youtu.be/a1R09yIKqq4?t=888

deholleboom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470048#Comment_118470048

We might add ' long Covid restrictions syndrom' to the list of symptoms. This often comes with 'prelonged anxiety ' and 'moral certitude affliction'. These are affecting large parts of society.

To please my community i now will also wear masks outdoors. It seems to be the latest thing to do. Apparently it will elevate my sense of feeling save..😁

corkie

Omicron - How Many Hospitalizations Are Actually From COVID-19?

Admitted "With" or "For" Covid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u9jrd3IIoo

This question, is asked allot on the threads?

Edit:- Sorry that video is from the 8th, appeared in my feed and thought it was recent.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/weekly-epidemiological-update-omicron-variant-concern-voc-week-2-data-13-january-2022

richie_os

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118227480#Comment_118227480

Do I get some sort of award for calling this back in November?

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118474718#Comment_118474718

Nope, you only know this from SA scientists! Quite a few posters posited this theory back then. Now if you'd been the one doing the research ...