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wotzgoingon · 06-01-2022 04:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427638#Comment_118427638

No it was near the main shrine to the left of it a bit. I just had to climb the tree I thought to continue and I eventually got up to the top and got killed by three enemies up there many times. Eventually I got up and killed them and realised this isn't where I was meant to go as every way up there was blocked. Wasted quite some time on that tree even stopped playing the game for a day or two but just went back to it. You were suppose to have double jump to climb it I know now as you are meant to climb it at a later time than I did.

johnny_ultimate · 06-01-2022 04:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427844#Comment_118427844

I only watched the RROD episode as the rest of it set off alarm bells of a corporate-sponsored documentary. There are definitely some interesting and worthwhile details about how the disaster actually unfolded, but they do try to spin it into 'but Microsoft overcame it, hooray!' story. Turned off the last 15 minutes as it was basically Microsoft approved talking heads about how great the 360 was after a certain point.

I definitely think good documentaries can be made from within - look at Double Fine's docu work, for example. But the Xbox one definitely often falls on the wrong side of the line between 'PR exercise' and 'actual documentary'. There's some of the latter for sure to credit whoever made it, but there's a lot of PR hype to get through in the process.

Markitron · 06-01-2022 05:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427908#Comment_118427908

Good to know episode 5 is more of the same, I won't bother with it so. As I said above, the first 3 are actually pretty good and the 'XBOX RULES' nonsense is toned down. The only real problem I had with it was how they were trying to make out that they were this massive underdog and that it was them against the world, when in reality it was the richest **** company in the world spending billions on a product because their CEO took offense to something that Sony said on a powerpoint slide a few years earlier.

06-01-2022 05:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427844#Comment_118427844

That reads like the narrative of the average Nintendo fan. Nintendo invented video games, don't you know? 😄

The Raging Bile Duct · 06-01-2022 05:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428131#Comment_118428131

Tbf, Nintendo would have more of a right to make that claim than any of the other console makers out there..

Retr0gamer · 06-01-2022 05:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427948#Comment_118427948

I never heard the MS exec being insulted by Sony line? Got a link? If it's true then it's funny because the Playstation brand was pretty much started because the same happened to Sony with Nintendo. So Nintendo also invented videogames and the playstation.

As for the underdog thing, to be fair nobody paid Microsoft any attention really and the XBox while technically hard to ignore, felt like it was going to flop. Halo really saved that console and it was the only killer app it had for well over a year.

The Raging Bile Duct · 06-01-2022 05:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428229#Comment_118428229

I think the story is being remembered incorrectly. Gates was insulted by the pitch for the original Xbox not including Windows software but being a closed system like the PS.

https://ar12gaming.com/articles/bill-gates-insulted-xbox-pitch

06-01-2022 06:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428182#Comment_118428182

It would be completely false though. 🙂

Markitron · 06-01-2022 06:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428131#Comment_118428131

I just like games in general, a strange concept for some I know.

Markitron · 06-01-2022 06:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428229#Comment_118428229

I am referencing the doc itself here. It is in there somewhere, episode 1 or 2. It was something about Sony taking over the house or making a PC obsolete. Apparently it really pissed off Gates. They made the same point about Sony/Nintendo.

06-01-2022 08:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428718#Comment_118428718

That wasn't aimed at you, or anyone in particular.

Markitron · 06-01-2022 09:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118429206#Comment_118429206

Fair nuff. Seriously though, watch it if you haven’t already, the way they take credit for all those things is hilarious.

06-01-2022 10:11PM

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I will. Though that's corporate propaganda for ya.

Looking back, it's surprising it took Microsoft so long to get into the market. I remember they tried to buy Sega before the Dreamcast died.

SuperBowserWorld · 07-01-2022 06:48PM

Hmmm, Mass Effect Legendary Edition, Outer Wilds, Spelunky 2, Gorogoa on Xbox Game Pass. And I've played none of them.

There goes any new year's resolutions down the ******* drain.

😀

07-01-2022 09:03PM

I just tried Mass Effect, definitely not my idea of fun. I spent a few hours mostly watching cut scenes, occasionally making dialogue choices that don't matter. 💤

I uninstalled it.

Taylor365 · 07-01-2022 09:41PM

Yea Mass Effect wasn't my thing either, despite the raving reviews it got.

Outer Wilds on the other hand. Mastapiece!

07-01-2022 10:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118436052#Comment_118436052

I tried The Outer Wilds once and couldn't get into it. I have it installed again though so I'll give it another shot.

Andrew76 · 08-01-2022 04:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118436206#Comment_118436206

Played it for about an hour - too much reading and puzzle solving so uninstalled it. Zero patience for that kind of game these days tbh but glad GP let's you try them out for the cost of the sub. Same goes for that new Halo game - the first few missions were boring as hell although Halo never really did it for me so that was no surprise. Elden Ring can't come quick enough tbh.

pixelburp · 09-01-2022 02:51PM

Jaysus; I know "hours of content" is a point of broader debate, but 500 hours? There's no way that can be anything but copy & paste game-design. Maybe 50 hours of "story" missions and a shít tonne of buyswork.

https://twitter.com/DyingLightGame/status/1479860453140434945

Retr0gamer · 09-01-2022 02:54PM

The sad thing is there's people commenting on how it's a good thing where for me it means I'll never touch the game.

Retr0gamer · 09-01-2022 02:55PM

Just a reminder that Games Done Quick starts today.

https://gamesdonequick.com/

Mr Crispy · 09-01-2022 03:07PM

"It will take 500 hours" sounds like a threat.

09-01-2022 03:15PM

I thought RDR 2 was too long and that was nowhere near 500 hours.

kowloon · 09-01-2022 03:25PM

People really expect an unreasonable amount of playtime out of games, particularly the story-based ones.

EoinMcLovin · 09-01-2022 03:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443822#Comment_118443822

https://twitter.com/DyingLightGame/status/1479889980205981705?t=LEvbQQz83BdFXEyacJA3ew&s=19

They came back and clarified that story plus side missions is around 80 hours. I'd say 500 hours is related to getting all the different endings and all collectibles too. My understanding is that there are parts in the game where you decide between 2 factions, who takes over a district or building so 500 hours is going through all the different types of decisions via multiple new game plus

johnny_ultimate · 09-01-2022 04:43PM

I truly believe game length is close to the Achilles Heel of gaming as an art form. So many games’ greatness is diluted or undermined by their simply being far too much of the bloody thing. I can think of exceedingly few games that are genuinely a perfect length.

A film being ‘too long’ you’re usually talking like 15 minutes. With a game it could be 20, 30, 40 hours easily, which is absurd. That’s not to say some games don’t need dozens of hours to do what they’re doing mechanically or narratively… but the sheer amount of our time designers waste in general is the single greatest blight on a typically vibrant and creative medium.

09-01-2022 05:07PM

The worst offenders are long games with a linear storyline.

If you have the option to influence a story's outcome, then I can understand long game length, but if it's linear then it's just taking the piss.

wotzgoingon · 09-01-2022 07:03PM

Wow all I can say is if you like your sanity do not play Ori and the blind forest. I was loving it up until the last level with the lava. I had to stop playing just now to give myself a break and get my head right again. I found the tree with the water rushing up easy. I was expecting that part to be harder after reading a few comments about it on here but this last level is on a completely different level. It reminds me of trying to beat the last level of Yooka Laylee and the impossible Lair.

SuperBowserWorld · 09-01-2022 07:08PM

I'm done for now with open world time sinks.

They all look incredible and are technical marvels, but they are finger nails on blackboards grindy at times. I've done RDR2, Skyrim, GTA5, Assassin's Creed Odyssey during COVID when I could have studied and got on in my career 😀 or invested in crypto or something.

Still, I could have developed an alcohol problem in that time.

SuperBowserWorld · 09-01-2022 07:18PM

Did Halo Infinite really, like really cost 500 million US dollars to make ... ??? I guess they remade it a few times or something, but FFS, it's very entertaining, but nothing that hasn't been seen before technically. Couldn't they have reskinned Gears Of War or something ...

I'll say it again, I think XBoxes have special chips in them for churning out FPS games.

https://gamerjournalist.com/how-much-did-halo-infinite-cost-to-make/

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