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Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    Probably needs to start looking at the 15 position or a move away from Munster. Ben Healy is only a year older with 4 times the caps for Munster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    Great to see Van Gran standing up and fighting back against the munster fans and media. No coach since kidney has had the fans onside by the end of their term. No doubt Rog knows this too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    I haven't heard what he said, but the pile-on is rather unseemly. Good win for him last night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    It was way over the top. It even felt the commentators on RTE wanted Munster to lose this one so they could continue the outrage. Its like Man Utd at the moment. What i cant understand is people saying give larkham the job for the next few weeks, its crazy stuff right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,842 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,574 ✭✭✭✭aloooof




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,671 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    If it was the Murray kinsella interview it was disrespectful to Murray ,Munster rugby and it’s supporters ….we’re going no where with this coach …no game plan he signed a contract and renaged on it …cut him loose now as he has already checked out

    larkham I feel has been another victim of him …honestly think he was never given much of a role in how he wanted the team to play



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,837 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    If you honestly think that Larkham has no blame here you're very naive. He's one on the greatest 10s of all time and a far more experienced coach than JVG. There's not a hope In hell that he's spent two and a half years kowtowing to JVG. He's a senior coach and part of the problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,671 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Possibly but who knows ….we’ve seen very little improvement of any in our attack play ….still entered around the forwards and South African style rugby



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,842 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    JVG should just never have been hired. He was utterly unqualified and had nothing going for him other than a recommendation from Erasmus as Erasmus was walking out the door.

    That Munster and IRFU couldn't see through Erasmus is still a shocking indictment of both organisations.

    And here we are, four years down the jacks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    It's hardly JVGs fault that Snyman got instantly injured, twice, or that Jenkins has barely played half an hour since signing, or that carberry can't string together 5 games without random long term injuries either

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Munster started really really poorly last night. I was absolutely dreading the final result, but fair play to them, something shifted and they started to play

    They still made some mistakes, understandable given the conditions but they were clearly trying to play positive rugby and that is the only reason we won. Ulster seeme to have a gameplay of either kicking it away or giving it to Dwaine but we did up the intensity and put them under a huge amount of pressure with our linespeed so I genuinely think we made them look bad rather then them under performing

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I just want Munster to be better. Hiring JVG delayed that by four or five years. It was a terrible decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I think you're skipping over the fact that they played horrible, limited, unimaginative and unambitious rugby again. And then would be a good time to introduce the conditions as a mitigation for the individual instance and an excuse for the fact that that's just how Munster plays these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,574 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    This is the first time I’ve seen the suggestion of giving Larkham the job for the rest of the season.

    And on here at least, the pile on on JVG seems to be from fans of other provinces tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,218 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Who knew that going down to 14 men was the way to kick-start a performance. We didn't play with the flair we did in that Glasgow match but there was something that just seemed to spark a determination to win. Down to 14, poor conditions, you win how you win. It wasn't pretty, it wasn't great for the blood pressure but it was a win.

    Wish we'd stop using our centres as additional forwards all the time and let the backs play like backs. Chris Farrell (and DDA when fit) are more than battering rams.

    I'm ready for JvG to leave, I'd love to see Rowntree get the main job, bring Costello back into the senior fold too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Would prefer to see Costello stay in Academy role tbh. He's only in that role 6 months as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Ulster played the game they were allowed to play

    I'm so sick of the narrative that every single time Munster win, its because the other team played badly, and every time we lose, it's because Munster played badly

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Sure. I didn't mention Ulster at all.

    I suppose munster fans are sick of the horrible approach their teams is taking to rugby and certainly sick of anyone mentioning it.

    The rain excuses it this time, it doesn't address the fact that it's the pattern of play they've developed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,218 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Reports this morning that we're signing Malakai Fekitoa from Wasps to replace DDA. Michael Corcoran saying de Allende is off to Japan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭mun1


    Nope, enjoyed the win. The way munster try to play at times can be improved, but still really enjoyed the win.

    Does that annoy you El Dude ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    No, not at all. I'd prefer if munster had ambition to play God rugby or at least win things. But if you're you're happy with your team playing as they are, that's grand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,574 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    It’s not tho. People said the same about the Ospreys game, but the bigger issue there was the error count.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭mun1


    Why would you prefer if munster had ambition to play good rugby ?

    I don’t really care if other clubs have ambition to play good rugby

    No one here (and also the players and coach’s) is saying they are happy with the way munster play at times.

    but id say every club and coach could say the same.

    but of course we celebrate our wins. That’s ok, is it ? Or do you have to play a certain way to be happy with a win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    It's not what? Munster hasn't developed a very limited gameplay? I'm not sure anyone is seriously buying that.

    I mean, you might say it's not true for the sake of an argument on social media, but honestly, I doubt anyone seriously believes munster's gameplay is anything other than limited and unambitious. How would you describe it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,574 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Error-strewn and inaccurate, in part because the handling skills of the forwards isn’t quite where you’d like it to be.

    I agree it was entirely unambitious last weekend. Here, it was limited for large spells, in large part out of necessity due to conditions and the red card.

    But the same claim has been made on here in games where we’ve seen Archer pop passes from the deck, John Ryan offloads and Kleyn tip on passes.

    I’m not saying we’re running from our own try line, but we’ve been trying to play an awful lot better than has made out on here at times. If it’s not sticking, that’s something else entirely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,842 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    The idea of giving larkham the job is uttered in same breath as the justification for change being that JVG is leaving anyway which ignores larkham is also departing.

    I think our biggest problem isnt actually completley off field at the moment.

    We are not picking a settled side, its a bit of a socialist effort making sure everyone gets a game instead of picking our best 15 and the only changes that are made are enforced.

    Just decide who our 1-15 are and they play every game going forward unless unavailable.

    Im all for giving youth a go, but we are coming into the business end and its time to have the heavy hitters on deck all the time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Lsdrugbyfan


    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/munster-set-to-sign-former-all-black-malakai-fekitoa/

    Munster are set to sign former All Blacks centre Malakai Fekitoa from Wasps – the Tongan-born star becoming the latest big name to head to the exit at the Coventry-based outfit.



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