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Djokovic

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  • Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He'll get worse abuse at any of the slams than Kyrgios ever got.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭growleaves


    I doubt it because the average tennis fan is a tennis fan, not a politics bore. And not every politics bore is a determined vaccine-absolutist anyway though obviously many are.

    If he played in the AO very soon I'd imagine there'd be some colourful booing at his opening match. But there's no reason to assume normal tennis fans will be holding years-long bitter grudges.



  • Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What have vaccinations got to do with politic-bores? Maybe science-bores?

    I think most people will find his behaviour abhorrent.



  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    not really correct there at all either Kyrgios plays very little tennis really and goes out in the early rounds because he's not motivated to apply himself but he's actually a big draw with crowds and only gets a bad crowd reaction if he acts the maggot.

    he's normally well received but soon gone as said

    the fact is that Djokovic has won many of his slams in situation of crowd adversity, like if was playing Federer at Wimbledon but that never stopped him winning - some say that he actually thrives on it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Selenophile


    That's the second event. The first one, with the postal service, which I was referring to, and which was referred in the article with Djokovic's tweet was on 16th. Tweet was on 17th.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Selenophile


    AFAIK, they celebrate Christmas later, after the New Year, so it is unrelated.



  • Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The guardian said the event took place on 17th December. Is the guardian wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    All this hatred towards Djokovic gives me a good laugh. It clearly challenges the narrative peddled for the last year that unvaccinated are somehow inferior or miscreants even.

    "No way could an antivaxer hold a higher standard of physical, psychological or be of a higher social tier than mine! Get him!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Selenophile


    That's the thing: The Guardian didn't explicitly say the first event (with the National Postal Service) occured on 17th, but led you to believe so by quoting Djokovic's tweet from 17th. Many other sources say it was 16th. That's the thing I didn't like - I would expect such manipulation from some less respectable publication, not from the Guardian.

    The second event, the one with kids and some tennis association occurred on 17th.

    I know this may seem as being too pendantic, but considering that other sources gave more precise information, one must wonder why the Guardian didn't do the same ? It wouldn't help Djokovic much, but this looks like the journalist tried to make him look a bit worst if that was possible. At least, that's my impression.

    Anyway, we will most probably see him deported on Monday, and the focus of media will move onto TA and miscommunication to the players. This year's AO will be remembered because of this controversy.

    Djokovic will remain unpopular as he was. He can't be any less popular than he is now, unless he finds himself in the center of some nasty, criminal, sickening scandal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Looks like he got a fake failed test just get into the tournament.

    I completely agree with his choice of not getting vaccinated, but he has behaved like a complete bellend (as he has for years). He behaved like a bellend last year when he was looking for special treatment for quarantine. He has behaved ridiculously for this in that he was clearly not wanted in the country.

    Tennis players are close to actors for levels of narcissism. They live in very close nit bubbles, where they are above and beyond the centre of universe. Female tennis players usually end up marrying their coaches because their universe has a population of about 10 people.

    As I said previously, just keep the trophy, don't give it back to them, devalue the least prestigious major by not attending, and never attend any gathering events after he retires. It will hurt them more than him. He can win his 21st at Wimbledon or the US Open.

    But of course he has to behave ridiculously. Turning up with fake tests, incorrect documents and not leaving the country when he was first rejected. He's coming across as desperate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    If he had a PCR test, they obviously had a strong enough suspicion that he had Covid. if you are symptomatic and waiting for PCR test, you should be isolating.

    Also, Djokovic is not you or I. I am certain that he did not attend the local testing centre. PCRs can be fast-tracked and back within 3 hours. He definitely wasn’t waiting for the automated text from the health service.

    so yeah, scum-baggery!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    not being vaccinated during a pandemic is just plain stupid. You probably will quote me “but the risk of myocarditis is 2/100,000 with the vaccine”. Guess what, your risk of myocarditis is 80/100,000 if you get a Covid infection (a 40 fold increase in the risk for the unvaccinated). Ditto, your risk of stroke if you get Covid is way higher than the risk from the vaccine.

    but that aside. This has nothing to do with vaccines. He either lied to a country and blatantly broke their laws. Or he knowingly exposed people to a virus that has killed millions, and did not give a flying **** for those people. It is grand for the likes of him if they get Covid. He will have all the best care. But the people that he spread it to will certainly not have the same care



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    What so because Djokovic is a good tennis player he is a physical and psychological übermensch and above any criticism for his behaviour? Do yourself a favour: take your dick out of his mouth, learn to think for yourself and get a grip, man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Haha, I never said he couldn't be criticised. I said your hatred of him gives me a good laugh.

    I think he was very silly to even entertain the idea of entering Australia, a nation of pushovers who've bent over and presented themselves to their sadist government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭growleaves


    No there isn't proof that he deliberately lied to the Australian authorities or wilfully endangered anyone (yet).

    It has everything to do with vaccines because if Djockovic were vaccinated you wouldn't be bothered trying to blacken his name. He isn't vaxxed so you are throwing as much dirt at him as you can and hoping it will stick.

    Yawn. Does every anti-Djockovic poster on this thread have to use bad language? Seems like an odd motif.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    You seem to make a lot of claims but have no way of backing them up. Vaccinated or not-vaccinated, I take a dim view of anybody who does not adhere to isolation guidelines with an acute infection.

    So, the facts of the case: he applied for a medical exemption on the basis of having had C19 (PCR result published date on 16/12). He met a crowd and engaged in no social distancing/masking on the 17/12. Now, either he did not have Covid, rendering his application false OR, he either knew about his infection and mingled or there was a delay in transmitting his positive result to him. However, he mingled knowing full well that he had a PCR test for Covid in the previous days.

    He was seen again in public with no mask on the 25/12. Guidelines at the time stated he should isolate for 14 days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    Give me a laugh. Tell me a country that you hold up and admire?

    stupid country, trying to help its people. What next, putting fluoride in the water or heaven forbid trying to eliminate things like polio and measles. What is the country coming to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭growleaves


    'You seem to make a lot of claims but have no way of backing them up'

    Lol

    What claims have I made? Everyone else is claiming that Djockovic is definitely a liar or has a definitely endangered others but can't provide details and don't want to wait for details but insist on jumping the gun with accusations of wrongdoing and cursing him out as some kind of criminal.

    From this I conclude they have a bias against him (for being unvaccinated) since if they didn't have a bias they would just wait for the full story to emerge.

    As I said, maybe he takes tests routinely and didn't suspect himself of having covid. I don't know, you don't know.

    If you wrote this against some Irish person you would be sued for libel and have to pony up hundreds of thousands of euros.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Trying to help it's people? Ha! If staying safe is your life goal then wrap yourself up in bubblewrap and stay at home for the rest of your life. You don't need a government to help you do this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭moonage


     "However, he mingled knowing full well that he had a PCR test for Covid in the previous days."

    He probably was taking daily tests hoping for a false positive. These tests aren't very accurate.

    He wasn't taking tests because he felt ill, so the idea of his mingling after a test being a danger to the public is laughable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    He did have a PCR result pending-> result published on 16/12 (whether or not he knew the result is open for the debate).

    he did mix and did have a recent PCR test.

    Tell me what I said that is untrue?

    And you base your entire argument on suppositions. I could claim that you are libelling me, by making claims that I am committing a criminal act? No?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12


    Are you for real? How on earth do you know why he was taking pcr tests or even if he was taking multiple ones. Logically if he took a pcr test it is probably because he suspected he had covid. Now that might not be the case, but you for you to say "he wasn't taking tests because he felt I'll" is **** idiotic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    And don’t forget the part that he was taking the PCR tests because he was hoping for a false positive (because according to the poster, the PCRs aren’t that reliable🙄)

    Just for context GrowLeaves, the current false positive rate for rtPCR is believed to be 1/1000



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12


    Haha so he's literally making up crap , 100% guesswork and fiction. And condemning the people who are condemning Djokovic even though it looks very damning. Not 100% yet but looks close!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    Careful redlad, you are committing libel and could be sued for hundred of thousands of euros!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,766 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Simple answer, arrogance leading to stupidity.

    Who's going to question a positive result to meet the criteria to travel on the day you're leaving when you're the no.1 seed and title holder.



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