Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

It may be your example. But why are you using it as an example in your maths, when you are not drinking it. Do your maths again. Your preferred drink can be got in Tesco for under €1.50. This is what you said in the thread earlier:

In my opiniin Brewdog isnt nice. I prefer a can of heineken or bottle of corona. Its down to personal tatse. I cant stand most of the craft beers.

I do drink alcohol, but your "neo prohibitionist nanny state" stuff is just slightly over the top.. It is standard medical advice that there is no safe level of alcohol when it comes to your health. That's the science.

Try asking your doctor if that is a perfectly healthy level of alcohol consumption. You might be in for a shock.

Is the the science or is this the lancet study which was quite uncompromising and fails to demonstrate the positives of some level of alcohol intake.

The current government does not care about ruining the enjoyment of ordinary working people in my opnion as it thinks it can keep enough votes to stay in power by claiming the higher moral ground. The incompetent opposition parties have helped with daft policies to alienate others and with this legislation failed to even stand up for lower waged workers who at times they claim to represent.

It has touched a nerve not like you and AAI would claim because there is such a big problem with alcohol but because it is simply wrong to make life harder for people on lower incomes with legislation that has in other places proved to be so useless. The figures from Scotland show record levels of drug related deaths and deaths from alcohol in years since MUP has been in force there yet you still seem to think that somehow price is such a magical tipping point in stopping people with addiction problems from abusing substances.

The issue with advertising that I found objectionable is that it took away funding for sports from competitions like the Heineken cup in rugby. The issue with warning labels for me is that it prohibits smaller brands of alcohol from entering the Irish market as they simply can't afford the extra administration costs of specific labels for products with limited volumes of sales here.

Alcohol consumption has already been going down here in recent years yet AAI and yourself still claim it to be a massive problem that the nanny state needs to clamp down on. Will be setting up the home brew system myself as I live a good distance from the North but am not ruling out a couple of trips to stock up on more reasonable priced products there. The last thing I'd like to say is that MUP is an extremely unfair and discriminatory bit of legislation and I hope someone in future sees sense and gets it removed from the rules of this country where the costs of living have already been allowed get too high in so many areas.

There's medical advice and there's the government dictating how much things cost in shops. We all know the damage alcohol CAN do, the majority of the population understand this. But as usual the government's approach is to punish everyone. I mean even the timing...with the pubs closing at bloody 8 o clock. Its like they're trying to suck every inch of joy out of life. For me it absolutely grinds my gears to no end doing 12 hour shifts as a Frontline worker and not being able to go for something as simple as a fûcking pint after work.

That was my point everything is more expensive but we get paid more which is why its not worth comparing price between the two

But I think they are getting included in the population count that people are expecting to go to the North for drink. Also children are being included.

They're all the same. It really doesn't matter who's in power. Right now we've an unelected government ran by a bunch of lads called NPHET.

So you think we should have a referendum on every little thing then?

What else can the parties do except publish it and ask the people for their votes? This was in the FG 2016 manifesto, and true to their word they introduced the legislation in 2018.

4. Improving the Health and Wellbeing of the Nation Healthy Ireland: We will pursue the Healthy Ireland and HSE Health and Well-being programmes, supported by increased annual budgets. Alcohol Misuse: We will enact the Public Health (Alcohol) Bill, with a full review 3 years post implementation to consider additional measures to further tackle excess alcohol consumption and misuse.

They also said they were doing it to help the bars - so what? Where does it say goodbye to your holiday specials, its gonna be more than double the price?

Name a time when a party has not broken one of their pledges - manifesto's are nothing more than vote getters for the bits people agree with