Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

So?

What does it have to do in Ireland though. And don't say its on the HSE website. The link you provided previously is obviously and evidently from the UK

Frank Feighan....How could somebody the calibre of a guy like this have any influence on our day to day lives?

He's the kind of fella who if he told you he was running the tea stand at a Junior GAA match you'd send a few of the u14 girls over to make sure he didn't burn himself.

Again based on the sheffield model which is ENTIRELY speculative, they literally conducted interviews of academics and what they will think would happen and based their findings off those.

Single market my fûcking hole. The Irish raped yet again. Looks like every other country is a better option than this shîthole.

If it is for the link I tried, that is a super fast summary of 104 pages.

The title page says its an adaptation of the sheffield model which anyone like myself whose been involved in this discussion since it started several years ago is acutely aware of how flawed it is.

Thank you for the link. e-mail in relation to MUP sent to the TD I voted for.

Still it does give conclusions on what has been the topic of much debate here today, shopping for drink in the North. I would agree with what they say.

6.8 COST IMPACTS ON SOCIETY A 90c MUP is estimated to lead to a cumulative saving to society of €1.2bn over 20 years from reductions in direct health costs (€178m), crime costs (€72m), reduced workplace absence (€160m) and gains in societal health (€775m). It should be noted that these figures do not include the potential productivity gain to society of those people who live longer or in better health as a result of the policy.

6.9 POTENTIAL IMPACT OF MUP AND PRICE-BASED PROMOTIONS BAN ON CROSS-BORDER SHOPPING Owing to the shared land border and differential tax regimes between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, shopping trips across the border to Northern Ireland do occur. In 2010 the Irish Quarterly National Household Survey (QNHS) included a series of questions on cross border shopping in Northern Ireland by Irish residents [35]. The results of this survey show that in 2010 an 100 estimated 14% of households in Ireland made at least one shopping trip across the border, spending an average of €274 per trip [35]. Of this total €33 (12%) was spent on alcohol on average, with the majority (66%) being spent on groceries (€105) or clothing and other durables (€77). Households in the Border region were more than twice as likely to have shopped across the border as those from any other region (43% compared to 19% or less) and accounted for over half the total expenditure on cross-border shopping (€240million out of €418million). Around three quarters (25.6%) of spending cross-border was on dedicated shopping trips rather than expenditure on non-shopping trips. In addition to the QNHS figures, respondents to the NADS were asked whether the alcohol they had purchased in the last week was purchased in the country or abroad (including Northern Ireland). An exploratory analysis of this data suggests that survey respondents paid an average of 31% less per standard drink for alcohol purchased abroad. Taken together, these surveys suggest that Irish residents may be purchasing cheaper alcohol in Northern Ireland. However; the fact that alcohol represents a relatively small percentage of the total spend on cross-border shopping trips suggests that it may not be the principal motivation for most of these trips. Whilst it is therefore likely that MUP policies or promotions bans which increase the price of some alcohol may lead to some increase in cross-border purchasing in Northern Ireland, reducing the estimated impact of the policies, it is probable that such changes in purchasing habits will be small, especially for the large majority of the population (90%) who live outside the Border region.

From memory Berwick is so close to the border that the local team competes in the Scottish leagues. Carlisle is not far away from Scotland either.

But I wonder how many would make a trip from Inverness or Aberdeen?

I'm only a few minutes away myself. I could save €100 every week if I bought enough drink.

The entirely predictable answer is not many.

It's about 190 miles from Aberdeen to Berwick. Did you ever drive that road? I did and I wouldn't do it if the beer was free.

Even further to Inverness.

Fact remains that cross border trade increased since MUP.

Edinburgh is an hour away. But sure we'll just ignore that. I'm in north kildare. I'll justify heading up on a saturday morning four times a year if im saving 1400 or 1500 euro a year. I'll be home by lunch time.

With such a large population of the country so close to the border this will fail and business will close.

How much would that make your expenditure in a year?

Why have the vintners been pushing it for 10 plus years? There was a link posted here previously. They are concerned about the health of the nation? Come on now. They want the cost difference to be minimal between drinking at home and going to a pub.

Less young people might drink (I think young people are drinking less in general, I know a recent study showed more students than ever are teetotalers) but what will those who would have and now can't afford it do for a buzz on a night out...brilliant more unregulated dodgy drugs...that is better how?

Seeing a lot of outrage about this since it happened, online, TV and radio. Would have been much more useful if this was all expressed before it was written into law.

In a country where you have lads on the streets cos they feel aggrieved about wearing masks or getting an optional vaccine jab this never even got a cross look. Seems fairly pointless getting irate about it now.