Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

Macy0161 · 05-01-2022 04:44PM

Not sure why Wicklow Wolf are getting singled out, but that's the retailer. Individually they're generally priced at €3 per 440ml, so no saving on that box. Elevation by them has been a gateway Craft beer for quite a few people I know actually. I think their 330ml bottles are elevation and mammoth - mammoth would be higher abv, and would probably seem quite bitter to the macro lager crowd.

Hurrache · 05-01-2022 04:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422024#Comment_118422024

You don't know a whole lot about their range so if you think they just have the one type. There's actually 4 different types in that 24 pack alone that some user seems staggered about. They've a pretty big range and constantly rotate it outside of their core beers.

And they aren't small cans either, the only 330 cans they do is their non alcoholic ones, the rest are all 440.

I think the sole purpose of your post really was to see how many times you could say piss, but you were actually afraid to post the actual word.

Suckit · 05-01-2022 05:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422118#Comment_118422118

Each to their own, I have tried their range from Super Valu, and didn't like most of them. 440ml would be considered small cans for that price.

I got it a few times, and the other crowd that re-imagined or repackaged, almost entirely with citrus or berries with the vibrant colours. I had forgotten most of WW's range had also citrus. WW were one of the less pleasant imho.

I went through a long phase a while back of trying craft beers. I came to the conclusion most or all of the Irish ones are muck and have tried to disguise it with citrus. There were some decent craft beers, but nothing outstanding for the prices. Much better available elsewhere for half the price imho.

Although, maybe not half the price anymore with MUP.

TallGlass2 · 05-01-2022 05:23PM

I was thinking, a pentation or something should be started to have all alcoholic beverages removed from the bar/s in Dail Eireann, I mean if we have such a major problem with drink in this country. Then it is only right that we set our policy makers standards, have them lead by example and remove all alcoholic beverages from the bars in The Dail.

Its hardly right that as a nation that has such an issue with alcohol we seemingly are okay with having a fully functional bar in the place where our policy makers work, it should be removed (with the added bonus of removing the issue of staff not paying off the tabs in said bars, well at least for the alcohol portion of the bills).

fritzelly · 05-01-2022 05:26PM

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422258#Comment_118422258

Get on to them on Twitter

VinLieger · 05-01-2022 05:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422258#Comment_118422258

Theres actually 2 fully functional bars in Leinster house, they absolutely should be removed but good luck getting anywhere close to the unanimous support this sham of a law got for that to happen.

05-01-2022 05:53PM

There doesnt appear to be a straight forward way out of it. One would hope that common sense would prevail but its doubtful. Publicans seem to be of the opinion that we will all rush back. That wont be the case. 15 pints is about 90 quid in my local give or take. So do the Math.

I'm not against tackling the overly cheap sale of alcohol per say. But this is just arbritrary. No reason why single units should have been tackled. Like say a single can or anything less than 8 cans cant be sold below a certain price. Slabs at Christmas etc should have been left at 24 quid maybe. Most would have probably taken that.

05-01-2022 05:57PM

I agree because we have drinking problems in Ireland.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422376#Comment_118422376

Raise the prices at least.

Suckit · 05-01-2022 06:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422417#Comment_118422417

We would end up paying for that.

Phil.x · 05-01-2022 06:36PM

8 cans of hop house13 is now €16 in supervalue, what a rip off.

It was €13.50

Hurrache · 05-01-2022 07:11PM

€2 a can of beer is no way a rip off, probably cheaper by volume than stuff like Red Bull, certainly cheaper than coffees in many places.

elperello · 05-01-2022 07:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422782#Comment_118422782

It all depends on the beer.

This link to Aldi in Germany was posted here yesterday.

Lot's of very nice beers at less than €1.

https://www.aldi-sued.de/de/produkte/produktsortiment/getraenke/bier.html?fbclid=IwAR3RbNsPHCBuU2r7n2_jvxYzqtoub2MR9zN_IYLODRGXGs_M3GfKu3Oeksg

VinLieger · 05-01-2022 07:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422417#Comment_118422417

With how many publicans we have in the dail that will never happen and that's how it's very obvious this is all about pubs and nothing to do with health

RocketRaccoon · 05-01-2022 07:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422633#Comment_118422633

I would argue the 13.50 was already a rip off for that.

elperello · 05-01-2022 07:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422856#Comment_118422856

Well then by your own logic it's even more of a rip off now.

RocketRaccoon · 05-01-2022 07:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422873#Comment_118422873

I got slabs of Guinness the other day for a tenner, anything from now on is going to be a rip off for me.

elperello · 05-01-2022 07:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422877#Comment_118422877

I know what you mean the €10 seriously spoiled us.

German prices at home 🙂

For Forks Sake · 05-01-2022 07:51PM

Don't anyone forget who the original instigator of this nonsensical policy was.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30527547.html

mfceiling · 05-01-2022 08:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422244#Comment_118422244

To be fair that's just your opinion that it's muck.

Most of the Irish craft brewers are putting out some really good and innovative beers. Few world awards for them as well so I'd say it's not really muck.

They're not hiding flavours by using citrus. What you were tasting was the hops that were added to give it flavour. Certainly not hiding anything.

I think it's great that we have loads of Irish brewers trying new things and as a consumer it's giving us more choice.

Unfortunately with MUP I think we'll have less choice now as some beers, wines etc will be quietly discontinued as they see sales drop or people stop buying them completely due to the cost.

Not good for consumers.

05-01-2022 08:43PM

I dont like craft beer. I like a can of heineken or a bottle of Corona. Heineken is mad money now. I see corona is 12 for 17 euro. 330 ml bottles.

fergiesfolly · 05-01-2022 09:03PM

This doesn't affect me as much as it would have years ago. I drink a lot less and switched to craft beers some years ago. I get that some dislike the taste but I couldn't go back to cans of Carlsberg or Heineken for love nor money.

It's a disgrace that this has been implemented on health grounds when other measures would've worked much better

techman1 · 05-01-2022 09:09PM

I think when Scotland tried to bring in MUP in 2015 they came up against EU anti competition law

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/heard-the-one-about-eu-law-and-irish-minimum-alcohol-prices-1.2522678

of course now that the UK left the EU they no longer had to worry about that when they introduced it in 2018. Its funny that the Scottish nationalists only introduced this as a result of Brexit but England didn't.

The question is if Scotland came up against EU anti competition law how did we manage to introduce this ourselves now. Surely MUP is the definition of anti competitive practices?

05-01-2022 09:10PM

Went into the local garage today. cheapest bottle of cheap wine was 9 euro. this will put and end to the 5 euro bottles of piss in LIDL too

The cheap drink was causing absolute carnage(silently), the amount of middle age people that are drinking one or two bottles of cheap wine daily is crazy, and a lot were getting ill, just not in a public way. Hopefully this will reduce consumptive. PErsonally loved paying 1 euro for a munich beer in tesco as it tried to get market share but don't drink much so can pay 2 or 3 euro for the same.

The only downside to this, is it is effectively a big subsidy handed over to the publicans(ie their competition hobbled). But then again, the state could start enforcing the licencing laws and we would see half the publicans gone tomorrow

05-01-2022 09:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118423309#Comment_118423309

Can you back up your claims regarding the carnage and middle aged people drinking two bottles of wine daily? If they are that addict then 4 quid on a bottle of "piss" wont pot them off or solve anything.

patrickbrophy18 · 05-01-2022 09:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118414040#Comment_118414040

I realize that the original purpose of MUP was to cripple competitive prices in the off trade to discourage people drinking at home in favour of the pub trade. Their 2011 manifesto mentions this very fact.

If the government were so supportive of the pub trade, they should've done away with licensing laws and closing hours so pubs and nightclubs could stay open for as long as they please and be as competitive as they want to be.

Licensing laws such as late licenses automatically build risk into any entrepreneur who is going the publican route with their business. The increasingly stringent drink driving laws were the icing on the cake for many pubs in rural areas.

Of course, they are too stingy to eradicate licensing laws because they profit from them. This recent move (over a decade in the making) to attack the off-licenses is in my opinion, a bid to keep the restrictions they've imposed on the on-trade bolstered. This way, they retain control over both the on-trade and off-trade.

That previous comment I made was about how angry I am that NGOs and their zealotry driven medalling have had such a detrimental and livelihood ruining effect. Anyway, I have said what I can on the matter.