The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Do people really give a fiddlers about Russia/Ukraine. I'd say most are concerned with Covid, House Prices,Rent Prices, Energy Prices, Keeping their job and providing for their family, Health, etc.

Maybe MM should concentrate on these issues rather than red Herrings, you know do his actual job,

Taoiseach Micheál Martin has claimed Sinn Féin “will never criticise Russia” and has attacked its “notable silence” over the Putin regime’s build-up of military forces on the Ukrainian border.

It's amazing really in the last 20 years the United States have been slaughtering civilians, starting wars that have caused the deaths of millions and illegally interfering in countless amounts of countries with their bombing campaigns and yet Sinn Féin are getting a bashing for not verbally abusing Vladimir Putin.

The salford poisoning was officially declared by Russia to be a fabrication and a "grotesque provocation rudely staged by the British and U.S. intelligence agencies" to undermine Russia.

British media will tell you the Russians did it and that's good enough for some people, not good enough for me when you take into account all the lies and misinformation they've told in the past, why are Irish people so quick to believe any negative stories about Russia? What makes Britain more believable than Russia when we of all people should know that the British intelligence services are not to be trusted.

You can probably judge this case by the explanations from Russia that don't make any sense in any reality, it's the type of explanation that those who fall for spam emails also fall for (i.e. deliberately awful to weed out those capable of critical thought).

This made me laugh. I doubt you believe the post yourself. It is like a throwaway comedian's line for laughs and giggles. Major holes in it on even cursory analysis.

I was looking up when SF gave up on absentionism in the Dail in 86.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/from-the-archive-blog/2020/feb/09/sinn-fein-votes-to-abandon-abstentionism-1986

From the article above:

Giving one of the most assured performances of his political career, Mr Adams said in his presidential address that generations of Republicans had made the mistake of leaving politics to those outside the movement: ‘The only feasible way to break out from our isolation, to make political gains and win support for our policies is by approaching people at the level they understood.'

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The 'approaching people at a level they understand' reads like Adams taking down to voters and taking them as fools. The level they understand (in 2022) is populist promises on housing and health. Purely in the hope of the ultimate of goal of a 32 county Ireland by the back door.

But the reality is SF only want all or nothing housing. Viewed again recently as a SF Councillor vowed to block Conor McGregor's plans to build appartements - build to rent.

https://extra.ie/2022/01/01/sport/sport-extra/sinn-fein-plan-to-take-on-conor-mcgregors-latest-business-plan

Maybe you like Adams think the voting public believe the kind of posts such as yours - that many new SF voters are gullible?

But people more clued in will just laugh at the likes of it. And the IMO the new voters won't like been fooled if SF do get into power. So SF will have to be very careful. The ROI voter is not like the NI voter. They are not as concerned about a border poll etc as SF are. It is delicate balancing act SF are on on all sides. Not as dazzled as the flag waving more interested in daily living and life.

You two posters are doing a very good job so far at making stuff up. The SF social media team must be great gas to to go for pint with?

Every post counts in 'the struggle' does it?

Have the two of youse even looked at the the parties that Sinn Fein align themselves with in the EU?

Look up Chris McManus SF in the above link.

The group comprises political parties of socialist and communist orientation.

What a load of absolute drivel, what have we made up? Please specify.

You and other posters have been ranting on and on about Sinn Féin not condemning Russia, what is the great need to condemn Russia? What has Russia done that is so bad in comparison with other big nations like Saudi Arabia? Russia are very well behaved in comparison to most countries of similar size and strength.

Why do you want Russia condemned so badly in contrast with Saudi Arabia and the United States, France etc?

Why are you not pushing for Leo to condemn the Saudis when he was over there recently shaking hands and having a great laugh?

The claim is relevant, I don't see the need for Sinn Féin to condemn Russia I don't think they should condemn them, among the major world powers Russia is the country least in need of condemnation.

Bertie Ahern said the same thing, does that make him and the rest of Fianna Fáil complicit in the bombing?

The Omagh bomb was the bomb to end all bombs, after the RIRA messed that bombing up and killed all those civilians there has been little to no appetite for armed action.

Eh, the same Sinn Fein sources were saying the same thing to Bertie. All he was was gullible to believe Sinn Fein.

I don't have access to the full article, but the subheading states that: ''McGuinness told government that the Real IRA political wing ‘wasn’t a threat to anyone’

Would you mind clarifying for me please with a direct quote from Martin McGuinness of what he actually said, not what the Indo/BelTel sub editor headline writer wrote.

As far as I can recall, the Real IRA political wing was the 32 County Sovereignty Movement.

Would you mind clarifying please as to who McGuinness was referring to,