Sex and the City: And Just Like That

Navy blue · 20-12-2021 3:03pm

I don’t think it’s *quite* as bad as some of the reviews are making out, but there is something very flat about it. I know it obviously has a different tone after the events in the first episode but even accounting for that, the dialogue feels very forced and the characters aren’t playing off each other at all. I think it’s really apparent that none of them want to be there and they’re doing it for the big pay cheque. I think it shows also how important the Kim Cattrall character was to the whole dynamic. The few attempts at humour have been absolutely abysmal, it really feels like they are all phoning it in. I hate what they have done with the character of Miranda, no way would she have reacted like that with the black professor. She was a successful woman in a man’s world for 30 years, no way she would become so flustered at a woman, and a *gasp* black woman at that! being a professor. I also hate what they have done with Steve, I know he is supposed to have hearing loss in the show, but they have turned him into a total moron in it. I agree with the previous comments about the non-binary character, I don’t think they add a lot to the show. That said, I thought there have been some ‘ok’ bits. I thought the scene with Carrie and Natasha worked quite well. I’ll probably watch the rest of it, but I wouldn’t be kicking myself if I missed it either.

The Black Oil · 24-12-2021 10:52am

A further allegation against Noth. He's done. https://www.npr.org/2021/12/23/1067543047/new-woman-accuses-chris-noth-sexual-abuse

24-12-2021 11:18am

I agree with @Navy blue that one of the better scenes - and storylines - so far, was the interaction between Carrie and Natasha.

I've just watched Episode 4 - Charlotte's antics to be "inclusive" was really cringey and uncomfortable to watch. I've kept an open mind so far, but they're simply trying too hard to pack in all these new characters and friendships. Miranda is a mess, when she was always one of the stronger characters.

I really miss Samantha.

And now, Stanford is gone to Japan to manage a teenage tik tok star. (seriously, the writers couldn't come up with something better than that for his character?)

JP Liz V1 · 24-12-2021 6:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350911#Comment_118350911

John was Mr. Big as in Mr. big shot money bags etc., nothing to do with his mickey

24-12-2021 6:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118370534#Comment_118370534

I thought it was because he was "Mr Big" ss in a major player in the financial world / Wall Street? .

JP Liz V1 · 24-12-2021 7:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118370565#Comment_118370565

Could be that too, I know it wasn't about a big d/ck 😄

Immortal Starlight · 26-12-2021 5:37pm

I never knew that. I thought he was called Big because he was the big love of her life.

NSAman · 26-12-2021 5:52pm

It’s crap. Non-binary, woke, every social stereotype and cringy to watch, not to mention dry, predictable and boring.

JP Liz V1 · 28-12-2021 12:19am

I thought maybe one of Natasha's kids was Big's

Shelga · 30-12-2021 5:35pm

Today's episode is the one that pushed me from being on the fence about this reboot to wishing they hadn't bothered. It's just no fun. They seem to be rewriting Miranda's entire history to reflect Cynthia Nixon's real life. There's no Samantha. Every single interaction seems to come from a place of being terrified to be seen as not being woke (Anthony is the only one saying anything in keeping with the non-PC role filled by Samantha in the original run). Che is an awful character. Kristin Davis's face, although I fully get how much pressure ageing actresses are under, is distracting. Carrie having hip surgery is not interesting or fun.

There have definitely been good moments and observations, but overall, like I suspected would be the case, I wish they had just left it alone.

Edit: And it's absolutely not because they're in their 50s. It's because they make being in your 50s look nothing but miserable, when there was a chance to do so much more, and who needs to see that right now? Once again, I commend Kim Cattrall for opting out. The show runners and cast need to know when to let it go. That said, I'm obviously going to watch every episode and therefore be used as a reason for them to make another season, but hey ho :P

Be right back · 30-12-2021 5:43pm

Carrie struggles to walk but still wears high heels? They gave poor Stanford a poor exit too. Agreed that Che is an awful character. Think Miranda will end up with the professor by the end.

mary 2021 · 30-12-2021 11:50pm

Miranda just wants to be cast as the lesbian she is in real life thats why she came back. All in all i hear they dont think they can do another series due to the bad publicity regarding Chris Noth, when in fact a second series wont be made as the original fans hate this load of woke sh"!te its painful to watch and the real stars of the original series were carries shoes & Kim Cattrell both missing. Hate the pod cast team, the professor & the real estate agent & the awful wardrobe they have given the housewife one with the botox'ed face. Carries wardrobe is from some clown world no woman in her fifties dresses like that they wear jeans & trainers....... they obviously did it for the pay check.

JP Liz V1 · 31-12-2021 1:16am

Is Patricia Field involved in this?

Hamachi · 31-12-2021 9:48am

I was bored last night and watched episodes 4 and 5 of this with my wife. Now the original series wasn’t perfect, but it had a rawness and energy that captured the zeitgeist of the early 00s.

This thing though. Jesus Christ, it’s just terrible. Describing it as ‘flat’ is a borderline compliment. There is no interplay between the three protagonists at all. All of the ‘diverse’ and ‘woke’ additions to the cast are an utter waste of space. The original series has been criticized for being non-diverse, tone deaf etc. In my view, it reflected the reality that people, even in melting pots like New York, tend to gravitate towards others like themselves. This new salad bowl of characters is artificial and a box ticking exercise of the highest order.

Finally, the ‘sex’ scene between that non-binary individual and the Miranda character made my stomach heave. It was about as erotic as a trip to the dentist for a root canal followed by a lunch of boiled cabbage. Hopefully, the realization has finally set in for Sarah Jessica Parker that the gig is up and that this franchise needs to be wound down. It’s a shame. I always thought she was a sparky, energetic actress. This show depicts her as a crabby old bag lady.

May this show RIP.

Shelga · 31-12-2021 3:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394263#Comment_118394263

Nope, she didn't come back for AJLT.

01-01-2022 3:29pm

Okay, I could write a long and scathing review of episode 5, but I'd just be repeating a lot of the above, so I shall just say.... my god it was awful. After episode 4 I didn't think it could get more cringey, but it did.

The best part of it was when Carrie and Samantha were texting.

Have I mentioned, I miss Samantha?

SourSessions · 01-01-2022 3:34pm

I'm a gay woman and even I thought that scene between Che and Miranda was awful.

Another hand up for a 'Samantha in London' spin-off (though I know it would never happen)

Be right back · 01-01-2022 3:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118400796#Comment_118400796

A Samantha spinoff would be great but I can imagine the other 3 actresses would want some part of it and I couldn't see Kim wanting anything to do with them, particularly SJP.

Che is an awful character and getting too much airtime. 😕

JupiterKid · 01-01-2022 4:00pm

I was willing to give And Just Like that a fair appraisal after watching the first few episodes that have come out, but the lack of Samantha in the show really takes a lot of the humour and fun out of the new series.

Miranda has become a complete Karen type who gets her panties in a twist about anything she deems to be “offensive.” The early episodes indicate she is struggling with the booze so expect a full crisis/intervention/rehab/confessional episode(s) centred around that. She is now just a complete PITA of a character. I know Carrie has just lost Big but she is so morose and miserable all the way through.

The PC bulsh*t and the non binary characters are just thrown in to show that they are all about “diversity” but it seems just so forced and false. Charlotte seems the most unchanged of the three remaining characters but Harry seems a like complete ghost of his original self from SATC.

I will watch it to the end but SATC this is not. I don’t think AJLT really knows what it wants to be. 5.5/10

01-01-2022 4:05pm

I actually don't dislike Che's character. I think they are an interesting character and could have been great in some new show set in New York or LA ..... just not the SATC universe.

JupiterKid · 01-01-2022 11:10pm

I will grant the new show’s producers and writers one plaudit: they haven’t gone down the road of Carrie and Co. as insatiable cougars in their mid 50s and shagging half of New York’s men, many of whom would be a lot younger then these ladies.

Now that would have been truly sad.

10-01-2022 10:55pm

Has anyone watched episode 6 yet?

JP Liz V1 · 11-01-2022 12:13am

Maybe Samantha could pop up in Emily in Paris

I do not get Carrie and Anthony scenes as he was Charlotte's friend

Princess Calla · 11-01-2022 12:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118452577#Comment_118452577

Cultural appropriation/appreciation.....they are really going for broke on hitting every single "woke" agenda.

I'll keep watching as I'm an eejit but they really should have left satc alone if this is their offering.

Space Dog · 11-01-2022 3:06pm

Am I cringing my way through this show? Yes.

Am I glued to the screen out of morbid curiosity? Yes.

Am I entertained by this although it is absolutely bonkers and even more OTT than SatC 2 (the movie)? Hell yes.

Oh and I'd be totally down for season 2 obviously!

16-01-2022 3:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453033#Comment_118453033

I have a feeling the role being played by Anthony was originally written for Stanford, but as Willie Garson passed away before they finished filming, they rewrote it for Anthony. Or I could be completely wrong. But that is what it feels like..

Episodes 6 and 7 were slightly more watchable. Very slightly (except for anything to do with Miranda. I just fastforward). I liked the scene of the three of them in the park, the chemistry is in the original friendships.

And I have to admit I fangirled a little at the appearance of Jonathan Groff (as the plastic surgeon).

I guess I'm holding out hoping for an appearance by Aidan, really. I was always torn between whether Carrie should have ended up with Aidan or Big.

JP Liz V1 · 16-01-2022 7:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118351777#Comment_118351777

I thought maybe some of Natasha's kids were Big's as why the will inheritance inclusion

Princess Calla · 16-01-2022 7:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118485785#Comment_118485785

I thought that too, but they kinda explained it as he was a finance guy and it was his way of saying sorry.

It was abit of a tangent storyline that didn't really go anywhere. I was also expecting something involving the secretary.

I thought last week's episode the closest we've had to the old satc. I genuinely laughed when Carrie and her date were puking in the street.

Though I was puking myself when Steve started tidying up the food dishes without washing his hands....shudder.

16-01-2022 8:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118485823#Comment_118485823

Yes I noticed that too! He washed his hands before touching her, but not after, puke! 🤮

Navy blue · 17-01-2022 1:45pm

I'm really tempted to give up on it to be honest. The Charlotte story is so boring and pointless, the Miranda story actually makes me cringe, I have ended up fast forwarding through any scene with her in it. I just hate what they've done with Steve. He was a cute, cheeky chappy in the series and they've turned him into an old man and a joke figure. Also, it mentioned in the series that he had slept with over 100 woman and it was always said that he was good in bed, so how has he turned into such a fumbling disaster? He's in his mid 50's not mid 80's!

The only story that is worth watching in any way is Carrie's (even though I am not a fan of her character) I thought the scenes with her on the date and the awkwardness after showed some of the old SATC spark.

I probably will carry on watching for all my giving out, but I won't be sorry when it is over.

mojesius · 19-01-2022 3:39pm

I don't care enough about the new characters to get into their storylines.

I also hate what they've done with Steve, and Harry is also being very much sidelined into the gormless sidekick husband. Considering how woke the program is, they do a huge injustice to portraying aging men. Or maybe that is woke, I dunno anymore :)

JP Liz V1 · 21-01-2022 1:32am

I'm hoping Che goes off with someone else on Miranda, why bring her and Steve back as a couple

Princess Calla · 21-01-2022 1:54am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118509759#Comment_118509759

I got the impression that the surprise visit is not going to go well. I don't think Steve will entertain her again. I think she will be back in the dating world alone.

I think they were brought back as a couple to explore the stale marriage/divorce storyline.

Icsics · 21-01-2022 11:51am

Very predictable, Miranda’s surprise visit will be a disaster….Che in bed with someone else. How in Gods name is she a comedian, that ‘rally’ was cringe & she (or they) isn’t at all funny

03-02-2022 9:09pm

For those who haven't had enough....

.... The Documentary

Chris Noth Not in it, innit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seTPvqvchs0

04-02-2022 2:33pm

Has anyone watched the finale yet? I'll give it some time before posting to give others a chance to watch it.

I will say I thought the last three episodes picked up a bit, and had more of the vibe of the old SATC. Of the new characters, I did grow to like Seema's character, she reminded me in ways of Samantha, without being Samantha, if that makes sense. But she was only Carrie's friend, not Miranda's or Charlotte's - I did get the feeling at times that Carrie was pulling away from her original friends.

They crucified Steve's character which I thought was horrible and I will forever dislike how they handled his storyline.

They did leave quite a few loose ends. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they do a second season.

Princess Calla · 04-02-2022 3:42pm

Was last night the final?

It was pretty underwhelming as a show but I think it will fall into guilty pleasure category along with "the hills" reboot.

Miranda has turned into everything she despised in other women, actually kinda fun to watch....I loved her grey hair, it's a shame she dyed it back red.

Charlotte continued being Charlotte, she stayed true to her roots I suppose.

Steve didn't really bother me, he has always been Mr dependable. One of life's happy people content with their lot.....a contrast to Miranda who never seemed happy always striving for something more. The only time Miranda fancied him was when he was happy with someone else and she couldn't have him.

I'll tune into s2 but if there's no s2 I won't be heartbroken by any stretch.

04-02-2022 11:59pm

Yeah, it was the last episode. I won't mind if they don't do a second series, it felt like they were kinda giving the "glimpse of hope" at the end that the editor had talked to Carrie about putting in her book.

Cynthia Nixon was one of the executive producers and it feels like she was telling her own story through AJLT.

Miranda's storyline pretty much mirrored her own life - she was married to a man, divorced, then fell in love with a woman, (her first same gender relationship) and married her. Cynthia also has a trans child, but I guess she gave that storyline to Charlotte's character.

Steve broke my heart in his scenes with Carrie, it was so "Steve".

jos28 · 05-02-2022 12:03am

Well I've just finished the final episode. I was really glad to see them back, it was like seeing old friends again. I enjoyed aspects of it but generally it was a cringe fest. I wasn't upset when Big died, I was always an Aidan fan. The scenes I like most were the ones with Carrie/Miranda/Charlotte together, like the old days. I really disliked the over the top woke-ism. How many boxes did they have to tick, it was farcical. The last straw was the Trans Rabbi 🙄. I was never a fan of Charlotte, I thought she was vacuous and silly and JLT proved it. Silly attitudes, silly clothing, silly character.

Like other posters, I didn't like what they did to Steve. I've never met someone in their 50s who carried on like a 70 year old. \If they do another series I agree that Miranda will be miserable in LA and I hope she comes back to find Steve all loved up with someone else. There was a massive gap where Samantha should have been, she was sorely missed. I couldn't take to the new characters like Che and Seema.

On the plus side I was drooling over Carrie's wardrobe as I did in SATC, love her style. All in all I'm glad I watched it and was delighted to see where they all are now. It's definitely open for season 2 and I'm sure I'll tune in despite the cringe factor.

PS - I always watched it alone, like a guilty pleasure. I couldn't bear to hear my OH slagging the bejaysis out of it.

05-02-2022 2:15pm

I liked the trans rabbi ☺️

I hope if they do bring a second series back, we find out that Steve has met someone - even if its not on camera, but only in a mention.

Everyone else was left in a good place - even Big, on his cloud in heaven smoking a cigar!

There's rumours of recasting for the role of Samantha if they do a second season but I honestly couldn't see that working. Its too iconic a role. I'd rather she stayed in London.

05-02-2022 8:34pm

I loved the original SATC! It was pure escapism for me and I wanted to be Carrie and Samantha 'when I grow up' 😄 And the clothes!

I've deliberately stayed away from this series because I want the show to remain suspended in time for me. Ive been reading a bit about it though and was very disappointed to see what Charlotte has done to her face 😒 She would have aged beautifully had she let herself alone.

JP Liz V1 · 06-02-2022 8:29pm

Just watched the finale and overall a dull series, the friendships of the now core 3 seem lost, no way would Carrie be in Paris alone to scatter Big's ashes, I cannot call him John

Stanford and Samantha were missed

gmisk · 06-02-2022 10:55pm

My other half insisted on watching this..i did like the TV show back in the day....but with this it was just poor.

I get what they were doing with the diversity and it was a nice aim and idea but it felt crow barred in and unnatural....it's a shame because the people they cast are decent actors...bar one...the Che character absolutely cringeworthy and insanely annoying throughout.

I think best left as it is I doubt a second series would be an improvement but I suppose money talks so we will see.

Princess Calla · 07-02-2022 3:58pm

Sara Ramirez (che) isn't that bad an actor to be fair.

She was grand in Grey's Anatomy I actually really liked her in that.

She wasn't too bad in Madame Secretary either though she was bringing the non binary into the character in that too.

I think her character would have been fine in "And Just like that" if it was just her character..... however the fact that AJLT tried to shoe horn every woke agenda into the show turned it into overkill.

SourSessions · 07-02-2022 7:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118595574#Comment_118595574

Sara Ramirez is non binary so will probably exclusively or mostly play non binary roles from now on

JP Liz V1 · 22-03-2022 6:16pm

And Just Like That’ Officially Renewed for Season 2 at HBO Max

22-03-2022 10:11pm

I really don't know how I feel about that. 🤔

22-03-2022 10:24pm

I think it should be made for 2022.

Two of the women should be trans. one non binary and the last one a horse.

Aidan needs to be from an ethnic group and the whole show should be more PC than a computer.

If it's not I will be offended and take a crusade on to social media to cancel it.

Princess Calla · 22-03-2022 10:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118820983#Comment_118820983

Ah we'll watch it anyway as we are divils for punishment 😅🤣🤣

JP Liz V1 · 23-03-2022 12:20am

They need to throw everything at Kim Cattrall to try to get her back as Samantha

Sex and the City: And Just Like That

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