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Landlord ignoring requests to unlock post box, or to give us a key

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    #32
    George Clean Freight
    Posts: 0 ✭ George Clean Freight


    It’s 2021 if you’re a landlord and can’t be bothered your Barney to read and respond to a text from a tenant don’t be a landlord anymore.

    If he read the text he can bloody well respond to it or if texting isn’t their thing - believe it or not the landlord could ring the tenant to discuss the matter! Shocking, I know!



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    #33
    km991148
    Registered Users Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭km991148


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118342639#Comment_118342639

    No, not at all. All previous comms could be wa. It's nearly '22 ffs. And regardless doesn't mean people need to be a d**k about the op's age or having to grow up etc.


    No wonder this place is in decline.



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    #34
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,669 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118343348#Comment_118343348

    Unfortunately a tenant who's too scared of talking to someone to phone in the first place will probably decline to answer.



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    #35
    Flinty997
    Registered Users Posts: 11,512 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    That suggesting not to rely on messaging (especially when its not working) but pick up the phone, touches such a nerve with some people. Suggests its not the first time they've been told this.

    No wonder this place is in decline.



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    #36
    George Clean Freight
    Posts: 0 ✭ George Clean Freight


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345385#Comment_118345385

    Ah jaysus it’s a bit of a flipping stretch to say he’s “scared” to ring the LL. There’s perfectly good reasons for sending a text over ringing someone a couple off the top of my head would be:

    having not only a record of communication but the entire conversation in writing if it’s sorted through text/email

    some landlords just don’t like when you ring them and would rather a quick text or email first who’s to say this landlord isn’t one of them?



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    #37
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341646#Comment_118341646

    Why is calling more of an response to an emergency than a WhatsApp?



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    #38
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118343319#Comment_118343319

    The idea that a guy who is ignoring WhatsApp messages would definitely answer calls is spurious.



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    #39
    Flinty997
    Registered Users Posts: 11,512 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345919#Comment_118345919


    He'd already been messaged, multiple times. So your scenario's don't apply in this case.



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    #40
    Flinty997
    Registered Users Posts: 11,512 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345939#Comment_118345939
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345957#Comment_118345957


    One requires an instant response (and an internet connection) the one doesn't. Sometimes when the phone network is jammed. A message might get through.

    You can ignore anything. If someone had ignored multiple phone calls, they might not be able to pick up a call. They might though be able to respond to a message.



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    #41
    JimmyVik
    Registered Users Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Not a landlord but the amount of unread whatsapp messages i have probably going back months. Fucin phone is constantly beeping. I just put whatsapp on silent and check it maybe once every couple of weeks. I dont check text messages either.

    If im not expecting a message then i wont bother even opening it. This is the problem spam and constant phishing calls have caused.

    If someone wants to talk to me they can phone me and keep calling until they get through. None of this having me to ring voicemail and wade through a ton of unimportant messages either.

    Now id say im not the only person like that. So if i want to talk to someone i will call them directly in case they are as bad as me for messaging.

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    #42
    Flinty997
    Registered Users Posts: 11,512 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I'm the same, I have certain groups and people constantly on mute because of the amount of noise from them. But you can mute some contacts and not mute others. So I assume a tenant wouldn't be on mute. But whatsapp often delivers messages late.

    But a phone call either at work, or at home will generally get a faster response than messaging. Unless I'm training someone not to ring me. That also happens. In which case I'll answer their messaging, email faster. Though I know at work, many people ignore all emails and messaging, and only take things seriously when someone rings them.



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    #43
    LordSirTurnip
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭LordSirTurnip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345385#Comment_118345385

    To clarify, I don't know where this impression that I'm terrified to use a telephone came from, I'm not, I don't think I need to elaborate more because it's just silly. I don't see where on this thread I said I didn't want to call anyone.

    I simply said that we've only ever connected through WhatsApp and proposed that Text would be a better alternative to prove I brought an issue to him.

    Had it been an ACTUAL fecking emergency, of course I'd call, but if its an issue im reminding him about after telling him a month ago, I think I'm well within my right to assume he's aware of the situation.



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    #44
    LordSirTurnip
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭LordSirTurnip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350188#Comment_118350188

    Granted, but I'd assume if a decent chunk of a LLs "job" is to respond to their tenants requirements, they'd need to be a bit more attentive to their usual means of communication than the average Joe Soap?



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    #45
    Jmc25
    Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭Jmc25


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118376613#Comment_118376613

    Many people on this forum simply think that a landlord is never at fault so assuming you to be afraid of using the phone and also assuming the landlord never checks their WhatsApps would be the most favourable reading of this situation from the tenant band landlord bad perspective to which many people on here subscribe.



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    #46
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,669 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118376613#Comment_118376613

    Squeaky wheels get oiled. WhatsApp doesn't squeak, it just gets muted.

    If you want a different result, you need to use a different method to one that has already failed to work.



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    #47
    twowheelsonly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345939#Comment_118345939


    Because loads of people have notifications turned off or muted on WhatsApp ? The amount of junk on WhatsApp is painful. A regular text is more reliable anyway and can be delivered faster in most cases.

    A phone call also leaves a record on your phone whether he answers or not. If he does answer you follow up with a quick text saying Thank You or whatever. You then have a record of a three minute conversation plus a text. For more serious issues, in legal terms, proof of a WhatsApp being read is not proof that the intended recipient read it.



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    #48
    LordSirTurnip
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭LordSirTurnip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118380461#Comment_118380461

    If you're a LL, and you mute the main form of communication between you and your tenants, You're a shite LL, simple as. If i've used WA repeatedly with this person over the past month and a half, and he only now decided not to answer, it infers more of an unwillingness to do something rather than the medium to be failing. However, reading many of the comments on this discussion its pretty clear to me that some people would defend a LL with their lives, even if he was breaking the fecking Geneva Convention.



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    #49
    Flinty997
    Registered Users Posts: 11,512 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399042#Comment_118399042


    In fairness the LL insisting from the start, on cash only. While being "vehemently" against any electronic records at all. Was probably a bigger hint to why he was ignoring WA and a bigger problem.



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