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Schools and Covid 19 (part 5) **Mod warnings in OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    Haven't been on this thread in months, good to see the same posters being consistent anyway, still gaslighting. 😉


    Who knows what will happen with schools? A lot can happen in 8 days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    What are other Countries particularly EU doing about Schools re-opening in January ?

    FWIW, I think that ours will reopen as planned on 6th.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭appledrop


    So now we are been told that anyone under 40 shouldn't bother getting pcr test.

    That will be very handy for the 'schools are safe' campaign next week.

    You actually couldn't make it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 919 ✭✭✭A Law


    Is it not that they have to have a positive antigen first? Makes sense to me with an overloaded system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Yes but a positive antigen test not counted in system, so you will have Norma + Tony coming out in a weeks time saying oh don't worry schools are safe the Covid cases are low in 5-18 year olds because they want none of them tested!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 919 ✭✭✭A Law


    Maybe I'm missing something but will they not be in the system as they are recommended to go for a PCR after testing positive on the antigen?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,451 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    So many staff were infected in the final week (maybe the govt banking on this) that I wonder will schools be more manageable since lots of staff were positive for the holidays.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    There couldn’t be a situation where the schools are closed and pubs and restaurants are open. So they’ll open as normal IMO. Thankfully. January is bad enough as it is without being caught at home



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Midnight Sundance


    So have they actually got a plan in place to keep kids and staff safe?

    I dread online teaching and don't want to go back to that, however I'm also absolutely petrified of going back to a class with an extremely transmissible version of covid doing the rounds.

    What I want to know is, what are they going to do when the teacher is positive and no subs available ? Teacher will be sick so can't do online teaching with the class. I've a feeling there will be a lot of classes sent home because of teachers isolating etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Well that didn't take long, Norma, Stephen + Tony all still banging the schools are safe drum.

    I'd have a lot more respect for them if they actually were honest + said the numbers are very high but we think it's very important for students mental health etc that we try and keep them open.

    I'd totally be behind that but don't tell lies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭FishOnABike




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers


    whats not safe about schools , thought it was all the pubs fault ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    That's my biggest issue with it, just be bloody honest about it and treat people like adults.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 919 ✭✭✭A Law


    Ye, so the process is now to do an antigen yourself if you have symptoms and only book a PCR if it's positive. From January 3rd you will be able to request free antigens. Makes perfect sense when the system is under pressure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 919 ✭✭✭A Law


    Let's not get into the to and fro about whether schools are safe for the umpteenth time on this thread. Teachers are annoyed that the standard rules for workplaces didnt apply to them and then on top of that are told schools are safe. It's clear that's schools are a risk, maybe a lesser risk than when kids are on playdates, birthday parties etc as we have measures in place to minimise the spread, but they are still a risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers


    sure no where is safe we all know that , its all utter crap , but then you will have the snow flakes going on about, baby sorchas well being and mental health in a covid ridden classroom, while she drinks wine in the local wine bar with the other flakes



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    If you need to get a 10 day neg PCR to get a child back to school, how do they see that working under these new rules....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,432 ✭✭✭✭fits




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    If a child is positive, and has unvaccinated siblings who remain negative, they can return to school if they have a negative PCR on day 0 and Day 10.Our school doesn't look for the texts but I know of at least one school that does.

    I mean I assume we can just book the test alright, but according to these new guidelines, we shouldn't really be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,432 ✭✭✭✭fits


    There have been very few covid cases in our school. How - I don’t know. So I’m not familiar with how it works.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Actually that's a very good point + creches are even stricter than the schools!

    As usually government hasn't thought it through at all + we will be ones left picking up the pieces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭hopgirl


    Same in our school, there has been only one case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers


    how do you know that ? were they getting tested every second day ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers


    ah all on holidays , be all bitching Tuesday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭cant26


    When did this come in? My son had covid in early December, his five year old brother tested negative on day 1 and day 10 and because of this he had to isolate for 17 days.....was absolutely awful for him. Covid ripped through their school before Christmas and this was the case for many siblings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    The 17 days doesn’t sound right. Is 14 not the max you have to isolate? Back when children could have close contacts my son was allowed back at school once he got a negative on day 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Was his close contact a household close contact or someone outside the household?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    I think Schools should open tbh. There may be staffing issues but I’m confident our place will manage them. The virus is harmless to the kids and probably no harm to let them get Omicron rather than prolong the pandemic. Anyone who’s vulnerable has 3 or 4 doses of a vaccine.

    The rules in relation to isolation, close contacts etc all need changing. This is the problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭cant26


    Contract tracing said 17 days. My son with covid was back in school while his younger brother had to stay home for another week. Was absolutely ridiculous. The thought process around it was son with covid was deemed infectious for 10 days so there was a possibility that his brother could have picked it up on the 10th day so therefore needed to isolate for a further 7 days to ensure they did not contract the virus. Surely others have had to do this?

    Contract tracing gave me a date when son with covid go back to school and a date 7 days later when his brother could go back. I didn't send the younger lad back at all. Kept him home for the last week. Wasn't risking him catching it during those few days and having to start the isolation rigmarole again.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    @cant26 i am in the middle of it, eldest has it.

    I don't know when this came in.All I know is that of the many people I now know whose kids have had it, some were told 17 days, some were told ok to go after a negative PCR on day 0 and day 10 (and did return to school after that).Since it became reportable lately, our principal has been sending an email for each case confirmed by PCR - all the emails have referenced the Day 0 and Day 10 thing although I know in previous cases he has enforced 17 days. If you look it up online, it says day 0 and day 10, but the advice contradicts itself everywhere.

    As it happens, I won't be sending my kids back til the first full week which IS 17 days anyway, but I am wondering do I need to bother with a day 10 PCR next week.

    Personally I think 17 days is total overkill.



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