Mica Redress

Nobody mentioned bespoke designs. This is about providing safe houses for the families affected. Currently they are living in a mess. Not all the houses are in immediate state of falling down. Councils are employing various different companies to modernize houses all over the country. Lads from Kerry overseeing jobs in Wexford and other parts of Leinster. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that a contract could be signed and have a project management company control the projects

No one is overjoyed about this, but if I could get my €450k house sorted for €50k or whatever of my own money and put this disaster behind me and my family, I'd be the first in line.

And as for the solutions mooted on thread, at least we're coming up with ideas, potential compromises and solutions.

What have the mica protesters done? Where is their compromise? Because all I can see are protesters abusing anyone that questions their demands, calling people pricks and dickheads, and insist that any compromise on their demands is a compromise too far.

There is nothing nonsensical about a state loan scheme or shared equity scheme. What they are is that they are unpalatable to those who want to be made financially whole though.

What solutions have the mica protesters come up with?

Sorry I was merely responding to you moving the goalposts as you feel. Family homes one minute to suit whatever narrative of the day. The next day is redress for all.

Can't keep up tbh at this stage. There's so many asks I'm not sure if an outcome will actually come from any of it. But sure look. Let's call everyone names when they raise real issues. Let's slur people In the thread with abuse. That will carry favour and make it all look so much more reasonable aye..

Get a job. Work like hell until you have enough money for a deposit to approach the a bank for a mortgage like most of these families done. Doh.

Many would consider the scattered housing that exists in rural parts of the country an eyesore regardless of whether it is abandoned or not.

It is about family homes? So one simple question, are you in favor of investment homes and holiday homes being included as part of the scheme?

Horrific to see this line going unchallenged.

This attempt at daylight robbery will succeed, if the political system doesn't start sending a strong message.

Like, apologies to people in Donegal who find themselves facing a nasty problem. But there's folk having huge problems getting suitable housing, for all sorts of reason. Join the queue, or make common cause so that getting housed is just as unremarkable for people on average earnings as buying a bicycle. This doesn't mean financing €500,000 houses for people who (despite what the Minister claims) frequently have little or no mortgage debt, and have substantial private means.

Tell you what, you share the evidence that the owners of a set of houses dating back to the 1980s up to maybe 2010 still "mostly" have significant mortgage repayments to make up to forty years later.

Because that's a more incredible statement.

Au contraire, old boy, it's the Mica advocates who've been contending that they haven't a bean. It's folk like yourself who have to substantiate their case.

When the campaign stops making obviously false claims, I'll stop refuting them. But not before.

No, I definitely wasn't contending that a house built in 1980 would still have a substantial mortgage.

I'm pretty sure you don't anticipate where that argument takes you. It's actually the argument I was making; it doesn't conclude with rebuilding someone's house at a cost of €500,000 to the taxpayer.

I absolutely agree that those Donegal folk should look at the root causes, and demand the same deal for themselves that people get when they need to rent in Dublin.

So where did I go wrong? Why aren't the families taking legal action against the relevant builders, who would have had professional indemnity insurance presumably?

You seriously haven't a clue what your talking about. Mates rates and no professionals involved.

Why do you post things you know nothing about. Is it just to get your post count up.

Seriously go away and study something before posting stupid comments.

No deflection. Just rejecting the contention that these are severely indebted households. Which is unsubstantiated.