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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    I sneer at the sneerworthy. Let's be honest, there are some King size bullsh*tters here who don't know the meaning of the phrase "I don't know" themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eh, cases go up a lot, more people in hospital, it's Pandemic 101. The only fact is we don't actually know how much it will affect hospitals. You will find that most of us are not as precious about our opinions as you seem to be. As for proof of things well you could show some community solidarity by finding it or a lack of it and present it rather than demanding it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    It's difficult for him to "prove" that hospital admissions will increase in the next few weeks. So good luck with that. But only an absolute numpty thinks he's not right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭ceegee


    Given the relatively poor protection given by prior infection to stop omicron infection, would opening in July have any beneficial effect on current numbers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Poor protection is way better than no protection to be fair



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Cases will probably go up in hospitals but we don't know how many. Numpties?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,520 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well it's getting out of hand now. I've a few people close to me, not close contacts just close friends, who are pretty careful, responsible and vaccinated and have contracted the virus in the last week.

    New record high daily case numbers in France.

    It's going to be very hard to avoid contracting it now I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭octsol


    If our family is currently covid positive is it risky to visit our parents who are also covid positive they are elderly and living alone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I wouldn't put a lot of stock in discharge numbers till next week. Over the next couple of days, we might see some bumper discharge numbers, then followed by a huge drop off again.

    Admissions are up, no doubt about it, so most likely hospital numbers will rise. It the rate of change that's important.

    If we've ~100 admissions/day and it stays around that level, then by Tuesday/Weds next week discharges will catch up and hospital numbers will start to level off. If they keep moving upwards, then discharges won't catch up until admissions peak. Which will thankfully not be far off, 3-5 days behind case numbers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Probably is a particularly useful word with all of this. Civil is an even nicer word especially when put into practice. I'll leave you to whatever this is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    nphet need to own the fact the made a mess of it. Politicians need to call them out on it, we had the strictest longest lockdown in Europe and are back at square one. At a minimum people should be fired from nphet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    I thought any one that catches covid is an idiot ? Have you told those close to you how stupid they are. Clearly they weren't doing the basics as you said



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Guess they’re not following the guidelines, right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,942 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Why?

    Primary school children are at effectively no risk from covid and they certainly are not clogging up hospitals.

    The vaccine does not stop transmission, and clearly is not stopping Omicron.

    They don't need it and it won't stop spread, so why implement a large scale vaccination of primary school children?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    But other countries that had far more open societies with regard to restrictions are being absolutely fried by Omicron right now. Your comment implies that we are in the current situation because of previous lockdowns. International evidence suggests that makes no difference to current infection spread. (Frustration with length of restrictions in Ireland is understandable but is a separate matter as far as I can parse the evidence).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    We really really really need to know how many are entering hospital \ ICU BECAUSE of Covid.

    This is the only meaningful statistic at this stage. We have a mild strain that is rife it the community coupled with a newly boosted population.

    Covid hospital and ICU numbers will go up obviously over the coming days but the vast vast majority of these people would be going to hospital anyway. Them having covid is only incidental because mild covid is everywhere now.

    The game has completely changed. Covid has become a benign threat and using the same measures as two years ago is bonkers.

    We need to treat covid as we would a mild seasonal flu outbreak.

    The health authorities are happy to play by the old rules because it masks the shambolic state our heath service is in. Every year, at this time, we are talking about numbers on trolleys because it is always the busiest time of the year in hospitals.

    Lift restrictions now while people are boosted. Stop testing. Treat the sick as they present. People shouldn't go to work if they feel sick.

    Restrictions put hospitals and workplaces under strain not Covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,942 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Good luck with that. Nearly 2 years now we have been asking for that stat and still it remains unclear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    This is actually a really good point re: vaccinations not stopping transmission and I hadn't thought of that.

    They may need to mask up in that case or we could actually see them staying closed, if a reduction in case numbers is what they are looking for of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Even if we did have that stat if they are infected they still need to be processed and treated for COVID regardless of how they got it. Despite its potential mildness we still can't put a figure on upper hospital numbers yet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Generally not much opinion on media reporting but this one is pretty silly.


    The world has hit a record number of Covid infections in a seven-day period, with more than 935,000 cases detected on average each day between 22-28 December, according to an AFP tally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    When we look back on it, COVID may not have been the apocalypse some people feared it may be. But I’d rather the authorities took it as seriously as they did than took the path some people in this country did, and not give a **** about anyone but themselves. Because the next time we may not be so lucky, and those same people who didn’t give a **** the first time, won’t give a **** the next time.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,417 ✭✭✭✭astrofool




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Yes but other counties haven’t had 2 years of persistent social restrictions and associated misery. That’s before I go near the financial side of it.

    Does living a normal life not dictated by bizarre and nonsensical regulations not factor in here? The graph posted earlier shows that Ireland and the UK have had very similar profiles over the last 6 months, but things were very different in the UK from a living life point of view. No Tony Holohans over there telling people to stay away from other people every day. No hunting around all summer for the last outdoor table at a restaurant or bar. No watching prime summer outdoor sporting events in the sitting room with 3000 people in a stadium with a capacity for 30000. I could go on.

    Add to that the enormous cost of these restrictions and the long lasting economic damage they are causing. You could get a few Luas lines or a new hospital or two for every month of the nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    A disease with a way higher risk of death vs the sniffles, I sure was right to follow the science and data no need for medicine for the true fit and healthy which has always been the case😎

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,417 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    At a worse risk/reward than the COVID vaccines 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭BailMeOut


    Five people in the house and we all took antigen tests on morning of 27th as we're heading to a friend's house to visit. Our eldest tested positive (antigen) but the rest of us were negative and we obviously cancelled our plans. She has been room isolating and we have been testing daily. She remains positive with no symptoms and we are are all still testing negative. (And spending a fortune on the tests!) Everyone is double vaxed and she is the only person not boosted. Our house is not that big so you would expect more positive tests so the booster maybe the difference. That said still cannot figure out if the rest of us need to isolate or not. She gets her pcr test tomorrow morning and if I was a betting man I'd bet she will test negative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,520 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,520 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I think my post explains how much I believe things have changed.

    Smart arsed comments are so childish. Grow up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole




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