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Dublin Airport Mayhem

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,411 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Totally different situation.

    Coming off a long haul flight with a tight connection airlines will try and get you to your connection.

    They will know who on the inbound flight has tight connections and request them to be allowed disembark first and have things like the golf cart on standby for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,550 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Exactly. If there was adequate provision then the decline in DAA staff would match the decline in passengers, so there would still be adequate provision.


    A queue is a public health nightmare, Dublin Airport should not be allowed carry on like this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I absolutely agree Amsterdam is a huge international hub... Dublin a small Island Airport and are completely out of this game...

    What you seem to be saying is Dublin do not know the numbers departing on a given day that need pass through the system etc...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    was it a mess again today?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I absolutely agree... women should be allowed through security first (i am a gentleman) then they can tidy up their hair while we allowed through... i think it might work...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,954 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I think everybody should try be a team player and arrive in as most a security sterile condition as possible and early…. 3 hours for me always. People should have…

    • no high heels / steel toes.
    • cosmetics pre bagged in front pocket of case…so easily removed…
    • no drinks / other liquids
    • no layers… just take off your jackets and have coins or wallet bagged in case front pocket…
    • If possible trousers / jeans or skirt / dress with no belt needed..

    you hold up nobody and you get through in double quick time..

    fûck the fumbling twats who can’t even take off a belt without almost falling arse over cerebellum….have more coins then a vending machine in their pockets and end up trying to converse with their fellow queuing public then get ready to go through to be screened but ain’t ready… and think it’s all sooooo hilarious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Liquid restrictions have been in 20 years now yet every time I go through security there's someone who has liquids in their bag or multiple clear bags or liquid containers over 100ml. It's always worse at times when people who don't travel a lot are going through and Christmas is peak time for those.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,411 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    No I'm not saying that at all.

    What I'm saying is where people are on single ticket, multiple leg journeys the airline are going to do all they can to get them their connection, including early disembarking, golf buggies, etc

    And your example has nothing to do with the OPs situation.



  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    transiting through an airport is different to going through security at a departing airport.

    If you were going to miss your flight OP, is there some reason you didn't approach some staff? I have travelled thousands of flights, if it happens that I'm going to miss a flight, through no fault if my own, I approach staff for assistance.



  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But there are not the same restrictions in every country.

    If the people are not used to Dublin airport, then maybe they don't know.about the 20 years of liquid restrictions, which are ridiculous anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I was comparing notes with another poster in the Amsterdam comment... you think Dub Airport fine ok... i cannot agree from my experience since Covid became a problem... before that pretty ok for me...



  • Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The guidance is to be there 3 hours before your flight, at a minimum. No matter what luggage you’re bringing. As another poster pointed out, one of the main causes of delays are travellers not preparing their documentation and liquids, laptops, coats, etc….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    The guidence before the pandemic was 2 hours now its 3 hours... its 2 hours anywhere else without luggage and its easy... These are the facts... The cause of the delays is bad management... people travelling from other airports carry laptops as well and its not a problem... not enough staff training etc...

    Last time i traveled was to Dublin from Europe, arrived at Airport 3 hours before flight... got covid test and result... had checked in bag... went through security and comfortabely made flight after buying a couple of medicine in the shop... that's the difference... 2nd week in December...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,550 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    No, the DAA website states that you need only 2 hours for short haul flights, and that in itself is ridiculous.

    And there are not many casual first time travellers in the middle of Covid, delays from customers of the airport is not the problem, it is the inadequate service provided by the DAA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    What the guidance is elsewhere is of no relevance. Anyone travelling through Dublin airport should heed Dublin airport guidance, it's there in black and white, not hidden. The OP took a chance, and I don't blame them - 3 hours before a UK flight is excessive - but there's no comeback when that chance doesn't work out.

    Dublin airport passenger numbers at the moment are the highest since Christmas 2019, chaotic times are to be expected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,306 ✭✭✭kirving


    For slowing an individual queue and building frustration, I'd agree a few bad apples can appear to have a big effect.

    But DAA are dealing with tens of thousands of passengers on a daily basis. On average, it should be possible to predict waiting times within minutes and then staff accordingly. Staffing should be directly proportional to the passenger numbers for that shift, and their destinations.

    Recently in the airport there was one x-ray operator who had a backlog of about 10 bags to be further checked, whereas others had none. Almost certainly someone being overly cautious or not understanding what they're looking for.

    I'd give them some credit, but I've encountered far too many rude and nigh on aggressive security staff in Dublin.

    A few years ago in my 20s I turned up to the FastTrack lane wearing tracksuit bottoms and a hoodie in preparation for three flights over the next 18 hours. The security guy shouted at me in front of the other well dressed passengers that it was business class only. He wasn't too happy when I pulled out the business class ticket and proved him wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    @Op, a lot of security staff are out sick with covid and self isolating, my mate works for Aer Lingus, he said its crazy in the airport the last few days.


    As another poster said I agree, go through T2 security for T1 departures, staff in T1 mainly affected with staff shortages.


    I wouldnt be flying anywhere at the moment with this latest variant Omnicron is fcuking rampant in the community atm and even worse in Europe.


    Im just coming out of 10 days of self isolation myself, horrible dose, wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy.



  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    'A few years ago in my 20s I turned up to the FastTrack lane wearing tracksuit bottoms and a hoodie in preparation for three flights over the next 18 hours. The security guy shouted at me in front of the other well dressed passengers that it was business class only. He wasn't too happy when I pulled out the business class ticket and proved him wrong.'

    Absolute rubbish. This didn't happen. Fast track is not for business class only. Never has been.



  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not every country though, not even every country in Europe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I suppose we are not really in Europe when it comes to Air Travel.... it takea longer to get on the flight to other side of Europe...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,306 ✭✭✭kirving


    Since we're into semantics, please point out where *I said* it was reserved for business only? His words, not mine.

    I'm well aware that anyone can buy a pass for under a tenner, and I've been sent to that queue in T1 during busy periods in the past.

    Anyway, you know full well that short of a video recording (which I don't have, and wouldn't be allowed to take anyway), you can call me a liar and I have no way to prove otherwise. Doesn't exactly make for a reasonable discussion where people can post their experiences, does it?

    I travel a decent amount. 95% of my dealings with DAA security are fine, but I've seen enough impoliteness and shouting at passengers to know that some of them need more customer service training.



  • Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ryanair kindly email customers with the 3 hour timeframe. I’m not sure about other airlines. In the current climate, if one has to travel, then it’s up to the customers to accept all advice given, not just opt for the one suggesting the shortest time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    For years I have been arriving at the airport 1hr before checkin and just walk up to a member of staff, tell them my bus was delayed or some other excuse and they just bring me through security with no other questions. They will help you if you show them your boarding pass and the time is approaching.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    You seem not to get it... Ryanair do not run the Airport it is the inefficient DAA... Ryanair are passing on the message... Their responsibility begins at boarding... If people keep making a fuss it will be fixed...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,550 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Chaos is to be expected. This is the low level of expectation that we put up with. In an airport, people actually book in advance and tell you what flight they are going on. That being the case it is absolutely reasonable to expect that having scheduled those flights that the airport has made proper provision for security for those wishing to fly on them. Security is not aided by queues and such crowding is a danger to public health in these times.



  • Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I do get it. So do Ryanair, which is why they are advising passengers arrive 3 hours before their flight. They are only too well aware that the ongoing Covid situation is leading to staff shortages in every industry, not just DAA, leading to delays. Some just like to blame anyone other than themselves for sh1te happening. They should remember that every time they point a finger at anyone, they should turn their hand over and look at the 3 fingers pointing back at themselves.



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Saanvi Hot Geometry


    Ryanair sent me that email for my recent trip to Tenerife, but I always factor in that time anyway. I went for Fast Track, which was worth it in Dublin. Factoring in several hours is fine when going a bit of distance, but if you were checking in for a domestic flight it makes a nonsense. Dublin Airport just isn’t set up for the two domestic services it operates to Kerry & Donegal. Having to go through long queue at passport control is a nonsense. Should be a mini domestic terminal section with basic security, a coffee stand etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,693 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    It's a long time since I flew Dublin- Donegal, but this used to be the case, is it not any more?

    (To clarify, I'm talking about taking the flight, not arrivals)



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