Average V Median wage Ireland?

What I've said in the 5th post is perfectly fine taken within the context in which it occurs. I'm saying the following statement is gobbledygook - so read it carefully

- "The whole reason you've been looking for a median figure is because you think quoting the mean suggests that most workers earn close to the mean"?

Also - do you still think that "educate people" is a good answer to "what is the median ft wage".

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I never said "quoting the mean suggests that most workers earn close to the mean" - and I don't think it!

I don't know where you saw that written - it's a dumb statement and I certainly didn't write it!

The only "quest" was to find a credible figure for ft workers' wage and I think we finally found one.

"quoting the mean suggest that most workers earn nearly the mean"

Avoid long passages, please show me exactly where you think I made this statement.

You're obviously badly misinterpreting something!

What is this - "nearly the mean"?

My only "difficulty" is trying to figure out exactly what you're on about.

Being facetious is no substitute for intelligent argument and doesn't impress anyone.

You need to engage in a lot of re-reading and a little humility would not go amiss.

You are still talking in riddles.

My arguments have been very clear and concise at all times.

My advice would be to re-read .... carefully.

I don't think anyone is arguing against the validity of the figures trotted out by the CSO. But the vast majority of ordinary citizens do not have sufficient expertise (or sufficient time) to plod through pages of statistics and the try to interpret them. What we will be told - by whoever is holding the microphone - is that most ordinary workers earn Euro 801.41. And this is simply not true. I promise you they will not be told that most workers are earning Euro €629.46 - which, if I am not mistaken, is true (And I am assuming this is full-time workers.)

What is fact is not always true. If facts are stated - but a crucial element of context is omitted - the statement may not be true, but the facts are still the facts.

In a recent elections a statement was made that “the average person working full-time in Ireland earns €47,000 per year". Not the average worker - let alone full-time worker but the average "person" as earning Euro 900 per week? (Don't even mention E801.41?)

Most people shouldn't worry too much about "averages". A jump in the average income could simply mean that a cluster of very wealthy people have moved to Ireland.

Clearly, many of the contributors to this thread are very learned in the field of economics and I must apologise for the fact that I have no expertise in this field and I am speaking from the point of view of your ordinary "Joe Soap".

But to move on, I note that the earnings relate to 50 weeks min work. So we're talking about "full time" (ft).

Under the "Annual Earning" heading, I read that the median earnings for 2020 stands at E40,579 (about E780 p/w)

Under the "Distribution" heading, I read that the median for "all jobs" is E629 and "half of ALL jobs" earned less than E629.

It may be child's play for an economist, but it's quite difficult for Joe Soap to reconcile these two sets of figures!

Yes, I appreciate the point you've made. But the CSO figures seem to suggest two different things for 2020 - as I have shown above.

So what do you make of that?Median 629 p/w orMedian 780 p/w. It can't be both?