Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Absolutely no point in questioning these people. They’ll guffaw and splutter in the face of all and every fact.

Know of several cases being picked up because of antigen that otherwise would have gone undetected. Christmas plans changed for those but better than attending family dinners. The resistance to antigen tests and their representation as snake oil was and is still is absolutely bizarre

Everyone I know have been using antigens for months

People need to be a bit more cautious with the 'let it rip' mantra.

One of the reasons Leopardstown Festival has voluntarily gone behind closed doors is the massive level of illness and self-isolation among their usual casual staff complement in that 18-30 cohort.

I do know the Government is concerned about infrastructural protection, as in preventing illness and isolation in such great numbers that it threatens essential services, like supermarkets, utilities and especially the health service which is already down so many staff with the virus.

I think many of the posters here would want to cop on over the simplistic view they take of what is a far more complex situation than mere numbers.

But 13,000 in a situation where he said between 8,000 is not wrong.

And 2+2=4 is something a child could do too, but it doesn't make it wrong.

I realise there's much latent anger driving some of the commentary here but it would be good if people used words like "wrong" and "sane" in the traditional sense of their meaning.

Nolan appears to have correct on this. There are plenty of grey areas and counter-factuals on which Nphet can be challenged I'm sure, but if facts (e.g. 13,000 is a number between 8,000 and 20,000) are not accepted to be facts then what's the point of any discussion?

People cant get tests the number is far higher than his worst possible scenario already.

After christmas and new years the numbers are going to explode, way beyond his worst case scenario of 20000.

He is an absolute spoofer, he should have went between 8000 and 50000 to cover himself.

I’d be one of them.

Wont lie, this Christmas is worse for me than last years. We had food dropped off by a family member and he said the same.

People saying that we wont see the full impact of case numbers on hospitals for 2 weeks is nonsense. Omicron is less severe than a head cold. The same people are the ones who say nobody wants further restrictions. Its usually them that champion lockdowns and restrictions.

This is pretty much over folks.

He certainly has.

He has managed to convince some he knows what he's talking about.

He's a genius if you ask me

Illness? No. Having covid and not being allowed to work? Yes

So because there are 13000 cases today Nolan has had the "last laugh" despite being a million miles off with everything so far?

GTFO

Something will have to give. It can't continue on like this especially when it is now very much appearing that Omicron is fast becoming the dominant strain, but is pretty much a mild to moderate cold for those that are vaccinated.

I don't have a friend or family member that has not had plans today altered due to a positive antigen test. Pretty much the same for my wife. I've gone through almost 2 years of this without knowing many with any sort of positive result. And without exaggeration, this week I know about of 50.

The group chats where we have talked about it, it seems most are similar to me in symptoms. A few aches, bit of a cough and a scratchy throat. If I had this pre 2020, I'd have thought I just had a bog standard cold.

Think it's time to move to a common sense and personal responsibility approach. Open everything and if someone clearly has symptoms. They should have a bit of cop on and maybe stay home or away from crowds indoors until symtoms have past. None of that 10 day isolation sh1te.

I love your last paragraph about moving to common sense and personal responsibility. Someone came into work coughing last week, said they had a chest infection and they thought it was ok to go into work. That is far from common sense. And not the only idiot that came in with a self diagnosed "cold" either.

Even if they were tested and a negative result, the HSE says to isolate until 48 hours after symptoms disappear but that message seems to get lost with people.

Most people have lost all common sense because they couldn't care less anymore.

You can't know that many people then!

Isolation while sick is a new thing since Covid for me