Fly me to the Moon - your 3rd travel Megathread - read OP

M_Murphy57 · 19-12-2021 03:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118345553#Comment_118345553

You stated "no one ever asks it" that implies you had searched. Very odd to get offended then and say you don't have time to look. My point was that "lots of people ask it".

I travelled this summer and brought my laptop so I could work remotely if I got stuck or if my kids tested positive.

Other people chanced their arm and dealt with the fall out if they were unlucky.

If that's not an option for you then you are right, you personally should not risk travelling.

bikeman1 · 19-12-2021 04:46PM

I find the question, “what do I do if I test positive?” funny.

Just think about it! Do you ask the government to do everything in your life for you!

At anytime in the pandemic you could test positive. If it’s while away, you make plans around it and get on with it. Be an adult and stop asking for help. This happens to thousands of people every day.

johnire · 19-12-2021 06:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347003#Comment_118347003

Who mentioned the government? I didn’t. Don’t be so rude.

joseywhales · 19-12-2021 06:25PM

In fairness it's not clear, I would assume I book a hotel room wherever I am situated. Do I have to tell them I'm positive, I assume so, can they refuse to take my booking? If so, do you wander the streets for two weeks?

bikeman1 · 19-12-2021 06:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347586#Comment_118347586

Exactly just go wandering around the streets for two weeks spreading Covid around some more.

Just do what normal people do, go online book a room for two weeks and isolate.

Chris_5339762 · 19-12-2021 07:12PM

There are stories of hotels refusing to allow people to quarantine there after they have tested positive... basically saying they aren't a quarantine facility.

It is an unanswered question TBH.

Liberty_Bear · 19-12-2021 07:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347971#Comment_118347971

Yes this is a huge matter. Ive told friends to double check that their travel insurance covers them in the event that if they are abroad and test positive to make sure they can sort alternative accommodation. THe lack of direction from the EU on this is worrying. On their reopen side they have very little past what the measures are. Like its designed to disinecentivise people to go away....

M_Murphy57 · 19-12-2021 07:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347971#Comment_118347971

Book an Airbnb with a key pad for entry then ie one you can get into without meeting someone on check in. It's one of the filter options.

If that's not available your choices are 1) sleep on the street (and hope you don't infect your fellow homeless) or 2) take the small risk of a brief interaction with reception staff behind glass, check into a hotel, live off room service.

If you/one don't feel like you have the ability to make a call on how to put a roof over your head if you/one tests positive then international travel during covid is best avoided.

bikeman1 · 19-12-2021 07:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347995#Comment_118347995

How is it a huge matter?

I’ve stayed in all sorts of accommodation around Europe. Not once did I have to disclose that I had Covid or not. Just check in and go to your room and isolate. Pay the bill and go home after your isolation period.

It really is that simple.

20-12-2021 02:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347971#Comment_118347971

Would you want to stay in a hotel if you're quarantining? Surely an airbnb or apartment with a kitchen would be more suitable anyway. And would be no issue in booking into that type of accomodatiion

greenheep · 20-12-2021 11:47AM

I was travelling recently and our hotel said in its rules that it cannot be used as a place to quarantine. I guess Air BnB would have been the best option but they can be difficult to find sometimes depending on where you are.

Another problem is how do you get food and medicine delivered if you are in a country with no family or friends to support. Takeaway food 3 times per day? Maybe call the local police station and ask them to do some shopping for you? This scenario is putting a lot of people off travelling.

M_Murphy57 · 20-12-2021 11:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350722#Comment_118350722

"Putting a lot of people off travelling"

Yes. That's by design.

Having said that I've never seen anything in the last 2 years asking me to confirm I'm not quaratining from covid and I've been in multiple countries.

DLink · 20-12-2021 12:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350722#Comment_118350722

Apart from your moral compass and the "greater good", what's to stop you leaving the hotel if you are trapped abroad?

FlubberJones · 20-12-2021 12:32PM

Looking at booking 5 days in Gran Canaria early Jan, found a decent deal and flights are spot on... fully vacced and will be be boosted too... Just hope some dramatic change in the travel restrictions don't come in....

20-12-2021 12:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350722#Comment_118350722

You mask up and just go essential food shopping.

if you can afford it, are not travelling with children, and have a job that you can do remotely, it’s not that big a deal

we are going to Tbilisi for a few days immediately after Christmas and taking the laptop for exactly this eventuality

joseywhales · 20-12-2021 12:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350958#Comment_118350958

I assume you might be sick, like fever in bed all day. It sounds like a tough spot to be in. Foreign country on your own, fever, hungry, afraid of being tossed out on the street for having COVID. Have to go get some food and medicine without being noticed. What a nightmare.

M_Murphy57 · 20-12-2021 12:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350985#Comment_118350985

People who are vaccinated but still terrified of getting extremely sick from covid simply won't travel.

If you ended up in a hotel too sick to even pick up the phone for room service you should probably call an ambulance.

If that's too frightening a thought don't get on a plane.

Chances of a young triple vaxxed person getting that sick abroad are tiny. I haven't hear of it happening myself.

Quags · 20-12-2021 12:58PM

NPHET/Gov have done exactly what they set out to do by introducing these guidelines, they have scared thousands into not travelling due to them getting fear of Covid, which is mad considering before vaxxed people needed tests to travel they could pass the virus on & didnt bother them then. If you wear a proper mask, wash hands etc then you wont catch it.

I have being abroad 4 times since August, we cant keep putting our lives on hold but again if your willing to forgo holidays "incase" you catch Covid then so be it

20-12-2021 02:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350985#Comment_118350985

I’m vaccinated, boosted and in good health. I’ve had Covid and it was nothing. So not worried about your scenario even a little bit.

But, yes, people in more vulnerable categories, or unvaxxed, probably think careful before travel

johnire · 20-12-2021 03:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118351070#Comment_118351070

faceman · 20-12-2021 04:15PM

It’s quiet here in the Valencia region of Spain. Flights are flying half full from ireland with lots of no shows. There was an expectation of a bigger than normal influx of irish and U.K. tourists given the talk from tourists a few months ago but clearly the U.K. travel restrictions and irish scaremongering has worked.

Also Valencia region is about to extend the vaccine passport to all hospitality regardless of size (it’s currently venues 50+ which has led to a lot of abuse of the rules) and all leisure facilities.

The large British and irish anti-vax minority around the Alicante area are about to go nuts 😂

joseywhales · 20-12-2021 05:28PM

The advice on acceptable tests for entry in Ireland is confusing.

On the one hand they say they dont accept tests that you do at home.

On the other hand, aer lingus are recommending at home test kits:

https://www.aerlingus.com/support/covid19-information/covid19-testing/#/tab-1-flying-from-britain

Someone earlier in the thread said they are using at home testing and it works for them.

Can I just go with this? I'm going to use a proctored at home test here:

https://www.emed.com/products/covid-at-home-testkit-six-pack

gutenberg · 20-12-2021 07:11PM

Just a note for anyone booked with/considering using Lloyds Pharmacy to have their antigen test done before travel from the UK. I had one booked with my local Lloyds to be done on Wednesday 22nd, and I rang today just to confirm, and to ask what documents I needed to bring. After some confusion, the staff member told me they didn't have enough tests in stock to perform it! Lots of other branches had been having issues, so their customers were sent to my branch, and now my local can't do them either. Had to book with a different clinic in a nearby city about 20 miles away, for £10 more than the Lloyds test.

If you are going to use them, double check a few days ahead of the test, and try to have a back-up plan just in case. They had not notified me of this issue, so I would have gone along on Wednesday completely unawares if I hadn't phoned today. It was only after speaking with them that the appointment was cancelled and I received an email notification. The test was booked almost two weeks ago, so not last-minute at all.

Be warned!

Hego Damask · 20-12-2021 10:51PM

What is the plan for testing ? are they planning to drop it and accept covid EU passes again ?

Since Gavin Reilly keeps hinting at it - don't know where he is getting this info ..

Hego Damask · 20-12-2021 11:03PM

This could be a hint regarding Austria

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/austria-to-apply-stricter-travel-rules-starting-from-monday/

The travellers must have at least two doses of the vaccine, and the final dose must have been taken in the last 270 days. Those who have had a booster dose administered are exempt from the on-arrival PCR test.

Liberty_Bear · 21-12-2021 01:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118348127#Comment_118348127

Hi mate

Its to do with those at the tail end of their holiday.

In a scenario where you are finishing the end of your holiday, you are due to check out from your hotel two days before hand and you get a PCR and test positive. What options are open to you? In cases in Spain a valid photo ID like passport is required to verify your fit to fly cert. If you are positive and the hotel does not want you to quarantine or you do not have the money...what do you do?

That is the crux of my point

cudsy1 · 21-12-2021 01:47AM

hi all, anyone know if time zone/difference is factored into the 24/48/72 hour test requirement before arrival to a country?

cant find anything on google or in official dfa advice

thanks

M_Murphy57 · 21-12-2021 09:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118354609#Comment_118354609

If you travelled knowing you couldn't afford to cover a 10 day hotel stay if you test positive then you are an idiot. That's the crux of the matter.

M_Murphy57 · 21-12-2021 09:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118354617#Comment_118354617

How would time difference matter? Your test is valid for either 48 or 72 hours from when you take it. That doesn't change just because the timezone does.

Valhallapt · 21-12-2021 09:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118354888#Comment_118354888

Travelling with the wife and two small kids, we just agreed that if one of us tested negative the others would continue on. Kids under 12 don’t need a test. The positive person would just check into a hotel and book a antigen test 2 days later and rinse and repeat until negative and fit to fly.

Fly me to the Moon - your 3rd travel Megathread - read OP

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