Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Do you think the government have some sinister ulterior motive for wanting to vaccinate? I'm genuinely curious about this as it comes up an awful lot around here. I know that a lot of people here seem to feel that the government are trying to control us - but why? A lot of posters here very good at telling the rest of us what we think and why, so can anyone tell me what they think the government is up to trying to "push to vaccinate the 5yr to 11yr cohort", other than keep transmission lower?

It has already been pointed out a couple of times here that transmission is higher in primary schools than anywhere else. People were denying there was any Covid at all in schools when there was talk of them not opening. Now that the bars are being closed, there was one poster on here complaining that sure "it's not even in the pubs, it's the schools it's in" So like ...... what do some of ye want? High case numbers are a problem for the hospitals. So, if they don't close primary schools and they leave hospitality alone and the 5-11s aren't vaccinated, then what do ye want?

We are a similar age. I’ve often thought of people like you, and how for some people two years is more significant than for others.

That is a really really hard situation to be in. I’m so sorry to hear.

I think you need to go talk to your gp about this stuff and tell him/her everything you are feeling.

Sounds to me like this whole thing has hit you very hard.

It will end. 2019 isn't coming back. The world has changed. But that doesn't mean we're going to spend the next five decades alternating between closing and opening society based on the prevailing health situation.

There may be some people who enjoy being wrapped up in cotton wool, but it's a negligible minority. Nobody is enjoying this. The politicians, the civil servants, the CMO, the health staff, nobody. Everyone wants to be able to book a table at a restaurant, sit there for as long as they want, go back to a pub for a couple of pints and then hug eachother and go home without ever having to think about testing and close contacts and covid certs.

Don't confuse, "I accept things need to be done to protect society", with, "I like this". Nobody likes this. It is merely being tolerated as the lesser evil. For now.

Public tolerance is wearing very, very thin. Assuming Omicron is as infectious as we fear, I can see us coming through the other side and as a society just deciding that we're done.

I see it every day now. More and more people who would have been very nervous, very conformist at the start, beginning to decide that after Omicron, we need to just move on. Realising that we can't wallow in this indefinitely like a widow grieving.

wow, this mindset is still around.......wow wow wow

Get busy living or get busy dying, I know which one you'd pick

im glad there is no talk of retail closing, its been proven to be absolutely pointless and little effect to the R number.

If it makes you feel any better, I was one of those people who felt respite for the first few months of covid with WFH, as I was on a team with a toxic atmosphere, and wedged between two people who hated each other.

I've since moved roles and find it really tough to pick up knowledge without people around. I'm quite introverted (although appear outgoing to others I think) and even I reached the saturation point with WFH about 5/6 months ago. I think the vast majority of people want at least some face time around colleagues at this point. I'm 34 and single and live at home, it's not normal to be around retirees 24/7 who never leave the house. We're sick of looking at each other tbh!

Is this another mRNA vaccine?

It is not, no.

"Nuvaxovid uses a more conventional technology than those used for the other vaccines already in use — it is similar to the technology used in the decades-old hepatitis B and pertussis vaccines — and does not need to be stored at ultra-low temperatures.

The so-called protein "subunit" vaccine contains purified fragments of the pathogen which then trigger an immune response.

The jab is given as two injections three weeks apart."

https://www.euronews.com/2021/12/20/will-novavax-be-the-fifth-covid-vaccine-approved-for-use-in-the-eu

We have access to 1.1m. It's only approved for over-18s though, so unless it offers a specific benefit that Pfizer doesn't, I don't expect we'll get many. There may be a niche of people who can't get Pfizer and who can get this, but it'll be a tiny number.

Not a huge issue for Ireland, it will be driven by the needs of Germany and France, our economy is growing more than theirs, but, to be clear, every country is borrowing lots of money to pay for this, Ireland doesn't have to worry about it more than any other country and the ECB will do whatever is necessary to keep the system rolling (lots of cheap money).