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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The cases will very likely increase a lot, based on Denmark and the UK, but the rest on hospitals is more very loose and probably wrong guesswork. The problem here is that cases are the be all and end all for the government especially when they are linked to another projected health system collapse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    So the Government are listening to Philip Nolans projections and so are they planning where to put these patients ? Have they made plans to use private hospitals again or will we be in tents somewhere ? If they are so certain the tsunami of cases is coming what are their plans ?

    Or will the just wing it and hope we fend for ourselves ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭The HorsesMouth


    Yeah I've absolutely no doubt about the cases..but like you said..the assertions on hospitals and deaths is guessing. But the way they spoke last night with such authority that this is definitely going to happen yet they absolutely don't know would drive you mad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Whatever happens I’d say the testing system as we know it will soon change. To what I don’t know. Testing figures and case numbers will very soon be meaningless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    The whole post is waffle but

    I'd guess you don't have children and don't understand how important family is to most.

    That is right up there with one of the stupidest things I've read in a long time.

    There are many people like you too who have never had a difficult period in their lives and are unable to deal with it.

    The ones who have suffered hardship are not the ones afraid of Covid.

    Those petrified of covid and living in their attics reading books and doing video calls should not consider themselves brave.

    A friend of mine got tested today because his son went to a party and then went home to visit his parents two days later and then found out he has Omicron.

    An anecdotal story that is nothing short of unbelievable. There is 39 confirmed cases of omicron in Ireland.

    Your friend had about a one in a million chance of becoming a confirmed omicron case on that day. Some people are really unlucky.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭The Oort Cloud


    I'm fully brainwashed. I caught covid-19 before this country knew what covid-19 was, then I caught it again in 2021 February as she stands.

    The shuttle took off just the other day, leaving the world in the usual way, heading to space to deliver supplies to the ISS hanging high in the sky, but when the count-down started they said hold the phone, they were not alone, the crew was not alone....


    Cause there's a bat on the shuttle with a broken wing, clinging to the tank while the launch-bells ring houston there's a problem hanging on its side the bats going to really fly, they shouldn't even be inside...


    Even before the launch they knew he was there chilling in the sun yeah would never a care the scientists said that it would be ok that that little bat wouldn't get in the way and as it started to clock they hoped the bat was stuffed the ride was going to be rough did the dispatch have the right stuff....


    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    The Tánaiste is a bluffer alright who can't resist a microphone. A few weeks ago he wasn't questioning the models and playing down the problem, but now it's armageddon. Hard to know what to believe.



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The funny thing is, the hospital situation today is more or less the same as early October... Back when we couldn't see any reason for not removing restrictions on October 22nd.

    Now with similar figures, NPHET deem it necessary to close hospitality at 5pm...

    Remember when heavy restrictions were seen as a necessary response to prevent 6 figure deaths? Well now we can use them just as a precaution. Thousands forced out of work every time NPHET think we might see increases in hospital numbers.

    The same way we can now close schools for amber warnings.

    Close culture has taken over in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Pat Leady described their predictions as being "drunkenly inaccurate" in the IT but it's just not the time to be challenging them and the government needs to look like they know what they are doing, to the nation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22




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  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    At least the Taoiseach admitted yesterday on live TV that living with COVID does NOT mean anything like normality in his eyes.

    He sees living with COVID as constant jabs and very heavy restrictions. It was great to hear him admit to that disgraceful attitude.


    So we can finally stop with the "Just a few more jabs in arms" nonsense.

    Normality and a return to previous freedoms is not their goal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭tigger123


    I got the whole family PCR tested yesterday. Anyone know how long it is till results will come through?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    good chance by this evening. But no guarantees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    We got results last week and took anything from 26 hours to 30 hours



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Good article by Daniel McConnell, says it as it is and how most of us are feeling.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭prunudo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    At last journalists are questioning the decisions made by Goverment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Oh it’s surely obvious now to everyone that nothing is ever going to enough for the like of NPHET. It literally doesn’t matter what we do, it will never be enough. People surely do realise that now. We could have every man, woman and child vaccinated and it’s still won’t be enough. They’ve effectively turned an effective vaccine into the ultimate “snake oil” ironically.

    Other countries look at it differently or to be more specific aim to live with this as much as possible. If they can open up fully then they will for as long as they can and if they need to impose more restrictions then they will, this is literally living with covid, this is NOT the view of NPHET when it comes to living with covid and won’t be until the power is stripped from them or we get someone to actually run the country.

    Low case numbers and really low hospital and icu numbers is a concerning situation, high case numbers and high hospital and icu numbers is a concerning situation, it literally does not matter.

    It’s a bit like being stuck at home with the kids on wet day and they are mad to play outside, so the minute it stops raining ye send them out, mitigate by giving them the wellies and the jacket.

    When it comes to COVID that’s what other countries do, go out when the rain stops but take those few precautions. In Ireland we keep staring out the window cos the weatherman said it might rain again tomorrow!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    My worry is that Omicron is not out competing delta and replacing it.

    It’s growing with it instead…

    Look at this https://twitter.com/theosanderson/status/1471907339397738502?s=20



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Modelling used to justify Sajid Javid’s claim that there were 200,000 omicron infections a day has been abandoned by health officials.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/17/sajid-javids-200000-daily-omicron-cases-claim-no-longer-valid/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    Speaking of ear worms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Hard not to look at all of this and not think that in a few weeks we will look back nostalgically at a discussion as to whether pubs would close at 5pm or 8pm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,369 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Case numbers will rise, that seems fairly certain. Even though these new restrictions are being put in place because of the expectation that case numbers will go up, I'd be fairly certain in 2-3 weeks time when they announce 9000 cases in a day you'll have NPHET and their cheerleaders in sections of the media calling for hospitality to shut entirely. January is going to be fúcking grim again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Journalists in Ireland were one of NPHET's best allies for almost 2 years.

    They don't deserve to call themselves journalists.

    It's easy to come out as critical now, when Ireland enters year 3 of this nonsense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    A rare question, but it is no tide turning attitude. The media have been well funded to the tune of €40m since the start of this pox with prime advertising spots bought to tell us to wash our hands and the likes. That kind of guaranteed lolly money will not be given up easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    The truth of the matter is they don’t actually know if what they are saying is true. They don’t have the clinical data yet to confirm any of this as the variant isn’t around long enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    And they've lost the dressing room, because the public can see through the waffle. You can't get a large proportion of the population to take a vaccination on the basis of reducing serious illness and then turn around and conclude the hospitals will be flooded with cases. Both can't be right.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    You need only look at the spike in Omicron cases there to see why they are petrified. That rate of growth is unheard of in this pandemic. If even half as many people with Omicron get it severe enough to be hospitalised vs Delta’s hospitalisation rate, the HSE gets overrun if left unchecked, as it grows exponentially quicker. That’s the simple reality of why these restrictions are needed at this time.



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