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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Perhaps this is just a social experiment? "Is there any level of ridiculous restrictions that wont have at least one ***** trying to defend them?"

    Or it might not be that formal actually. Could just be Tony desperately trying to find the exact point where Michael Martin grows a set of balls. For the good of the country, of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    Yep. Totally nuts. Sure …..

    Straight from the horses mouth .

    micheal Martin 24th September 2020 “maybe using more influencers to communicate at the level young people are at in terms of the various platforms they access... I think is key.” 

    Same article ….. Fine Gael TD Neale Richmond since indicated influencers could be paid up to €20,000 as part of the campaign, which has caused some public debate over using influencers as online advertisers.

    Source - Irish examiner

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/healthandwellbeing/arid-40053998.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Mango321


    Peak nuts here tonight.


    And it seems that all you have to do to make other posters happy is mention the government 'having balls', or 'hiding under your bed' (haven't seen a '**** over the numbers' yet but surely it'll come).


    It's just like March 2020.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    What are you on about? The level of the proposed restrictions are nowhere near the levels which the country have gone through in the past year. What is proposed is absolutely tame in comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,290 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Get where youre coming from but It's still a disaster for the industries affected and that's including all staff who will suffer (including myself) as a result and a bloody week before Xmas



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cant be the unvaccinated, they arent allowed out at all, unless shopping in Tesco etc.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The timing is atrocious, the nonsensical nature of the timed restriction is banal and none of it makes sense when you consider they are leaving schools and retail open.

    It makes no sense.

    None.

    I don't see why people should follow nonsensical instructions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,261 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    If you wear your old school uniform down the pub can you get an extra few hours boozing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,490 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    For what its worth, I don't think the Government will adopt the 5pm recommendation.

    Its a cowardly enough suggestion anyway, if NPHET wanted hospitality closed, which is what 5pm amounts to, they should just say so.

    I think large scale audience events, indoor and outdoor, will probably be drastically scaled back, but I don't see much else happening. Cases are steady enough, the best thing to do now is get as many boosters and childhood vaccines into arms as capacity will allow, by opening Centres 12 hours+ a day, 7 days and eliminating the 15 minute observation for those who had no reaction on doses one and two.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There is, a logic to closing the pubs,


    Obviously pubs will be packed over Christmas and the new year, rural pubs already are not following guidelines.

    People may not like it but it makes sense to not have bars packed to the walls with people wearing no masks and practicing poor covid safety standards.

    People may party in their homes but its very unlikely they will invite several strangers or large groups, meaning it will be easier for contact tracing.


    We need only look at the UK to see how quickly this new variant can spread, with thousands of people set to travel to Ireland from the UK it makes sense that we need tighter restrictions at this time of year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Mango321



    Your **** joke doesn't work because of the new quote format.


    At some point, hopefully, boards posters will evolve beyond the **** joke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,630 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    maybe 'how many of them weren't sick?' would be the question...

    just reading the twitter thread, actually clicked into the first study...

    you can compare symptoms experienced by people who tested negative versus people who tested positive, for 'fever', less than 5 (out of 29) testing negative reported it, as opposed to 54% of those who tested positive, with it averaging 2-3 days

    (66% of negative cases reported at least some symptoms, versus 99% of positive cases)

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    also this: not sure the implications, a few who tested positive had a history of travel, at least one to south africa, so it could have been spreading between colleagues for a few days before the party


    Post edited by Quantum Erasure on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    If government agree to this quasi-closure of hospitality, I'll be fairly concerned about my job. We're still barely breaking even after lockdowns, I've already had to cut hours left and right. I'll be genuinely worried we won't come back from this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    meanwhile you’ll be posting insulting comments ad nauseam in this massive echo chamber.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,279 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    IMO where we are is a mixture of bad luck and avoidable policy errors.

    The bad luck is Omicron and Christmas, but more than that the Omicron wave in the UK combined with steady cases and falling hospitalisations here means that it feels like talk of restrictions is jumping the gun.

    On the other hand suprise restrictions go down equally badly with pubs and restaurants wasting stock.

    I don't think anyone can claim certainty over what's going to happen with infection over the next few weeks.

    "Abundance of caution" is fine but needs to be used sparingly. If we'd opened up and gagged NPET in August people might have more patience now, but that opportunity was wasted.

    What we've had here is never ending greyness, and now it's sounding a lot like "Christmas is cancelled".

    Talk about alcohol dependent socialising misses the point that Omicron is so transmissible that you'd catch it at a tea party with the windows open.

    Antigen tests appear to be unreliable as a precautionary measure, at least anecdotally. So there's not really much people can do to avoid it other than cut out social contact completely.

    And a week before Christmas that's just not going to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Stop getting tested when you have a runny nose. Everyone is vaccinated, most three times. Pandemic over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    With the uncertainty of the last few weeks why did they make such an investment? Silly move really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,279 ✭✭✭✭Lumen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭celt262




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Fairly poor understanding of human nature to think that these recommendations will result in social engagements not happening but par for the course with our experts tbh.

    All they’ve done is take people away from controlled environments and push them into uncontrollable house parties etc, bravo, well done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭prunudo


    I guess you haven't ordered furniture recently. There are months of lead time before you receive your order. Maybe they were hoping to attract more customers as the old decor had become worn. Maybe they felt months ago after promises from government that things had changed.

    It never ceases to amaze me how detached some people are from the realities of running businesses. Its never black and white, decisions are thought about, probably over thought, second guessed and then you have these clowns pulling the rug from under them at the 11th hour after months of false promises and pandering to their nonsensical requirements and restrictions. The anger on both threads the last 8 hrs is far more than 'lads just wanting pints' .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    It’s clear as day that anyone who supports this type of closure in all but name has no association with the industries been effected. It’s been 2yrs of one sector taking the brunt of disproportionate restrictions.

    we are all in this together is completely gone it’s all about me and how covid effects me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57


    If this is implemented presumably all the gigs/theatres/events that danced to Tony's tune 2 weeks ago and refunded 50% of tickets will have to refund the other 50% if they were on after 5pm (which Tony will be aware the vast majority were)

    "Nothing after 5pm" is a lockdown pure and simple.


    My kids are allowed out later than that, we aren't even being treated like children we are being treated like babies.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    I'd be surprised if government go wholly against NPHET advice, but I would expecting some sanity like 9pm or 8pm. 5pm is ridiculous!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    The Netherlands went with 5pm, that worries me that it might happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭prunudo


    This effects all of society, not just bar staff. Its effects the hairdressers/beauty industry because people aren't going out. It effects the food and beverage suppliers, the hauliers and transport companies who deliver the product. The taxi drivers who bring people around also the cleaning, maintenance and repair staff to keep places running.


    And lets not forget, it effects everyone because tax and vat take is down at a crucial time of year for the effected industries and that effects all of us in the years ahead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I would suggest that some sanity would be leaving them alone. There is absolutely no good reason for this measure.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Just means off licenses will be doing roaring trade at/after 5pm for house parties kicking off at 6pm!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,861 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Naw, supermarkets will be getting hit when people stock up.



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