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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #2492
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118312495#Comment_118312495

    "If he was indicating well in advance he'd have had right of way, not that that would absolve them of not checking mirrors and driving through someone."

    Indicators don't automatically give right of way usually. I'm no legal expert but this is a bit of a grey area to me or maybe I'm just being silly/ignorant. In the road traffic act I think it specifies you are allowed to filter up the left of stopped or slow moving traffic unless the traffic is indicating left, but I have no idea what applies when a cycle lane is involved. To me it's an active lane and to cross it is akin to crossing from the outside to the inside lane on a dual carriageway or motorway, in that you should be checking your left side mirror before turning across it and yield accordingly.

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  • #2493
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,539 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118312668#Comment_118312668

    That's the law I'm thinking of. Maybe right of way is the wrong term, just the cyclist shouldn't overtake in that situation. I don't think the cycle lane makes a difference, you're still overtaking. I've gone over the RTAs and Traffic and Parking acts a few times and there's very little in there that gives legal status to regular driving lanes either, they're all just part of the carriageway as far as I can tell. The mandatory cycle lane thing is the only thing that gets close.

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  • #2494
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,539 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118313144#Comment_118313144

    I wish I could be certain about that part, I'd be much more inclined to follow up if I could say 100% (though they're still wrong for not checking mirrors). I dropped my front camera/light a couple weeks ago and since then it only turns on sometimes, very annoying since this is the first interesting thing to happen to me on the bike!

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  • #2495
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,539 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118323685#Comment_118323685

    Yeah I wouldn't be hopeful of or looking for any sort of reprimand for that reason, I would like the statistic recorded, though I'm not sure anything ever gets reviewed. The more I think about it that junction as it is now couldn't be better designed to cause this sort of incident.

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  • #2496
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have you footage from the front?

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  • #2497
    TheChizler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,539 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118324963#Comment_118324963

    Annoyingly, no.

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  • #2498
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118312167#Comment_118312167

    They are wrong for not checking mirrors, you are wrong for undertaking there

    I'd chalk it down as a lesson learned and be glad its not worse

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  • #2499
    TheChizler
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118326935#Comment_118326935

    I wouldn't be so sure about wrong (if you mean in a legal sense), it certainly wasn't sensible with the benefit of hindsight.

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  • #2500
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118327031#Comment_118327031

    Legally I can't see how you would have the right of way there

    I certainly would never leave myself in a situation where a car is outside me at a junction, I mean its impossible to stop someone overtaking you and turning, but that is exceptionally rare , but I would never move up the inside unless I can be sure I will be ahead

    The bollards do make it worse there as you can't take the lane which is what you should do

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  • #2501
    TheChizler
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118327107#Comment_118327107

    And I wouldn't normally either but as I said I was distracted trying to figure out where I s supposed to go next and continued on where the layout was directing me. The combination of poor layout, lapse in my self preservation checks, and the driver not checking mirrors before crossing the track didn't play out well here.

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  • #2502
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Just because a person broke the law by not indicating doesn't mean this person can overtake left turning cars legally on the inside


    It's like this, I indicate to turn left and you pull out in front of me, who is at fault

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  • #2503
    magicbastarder
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    oh dear.

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  • #2504
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,095 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118320128#Comment_118320128


    Its a cycle TRACK. Not a lane.

    Cycle Track Edge Line, RRM 022


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  • #2505
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,531 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    So in the eyes of the law, a bike lane basically doesn't exist and you're essentially just passing on the inside. So worst case scenario, a cyclist isn't being careful and gets hit by a left turning car at least there's a responsibility on the driver to ensure it's safe to turn, regardless of who has right of way etc.

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  • #2506
    magicbastarder
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    closest i've come to a self inflicted pratfall in a couple of years this morning. managed to leave the road at about 30km/h and drop into a churned up muddy rut left by cars, maybe two inches below the road surface at the side. just about managed to hold it upright as i came to an undignified halt.

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  • #2507
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Jesus, that's a hit and run, and the driver could face jail time unfortunately I suspect you will hear nothing other than "its your word against theirs". I would contact the local station if you think there is CCTV around, as it will be long gone by the time Trafficwatch get around to it.

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  • #2508
    ARX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭ARX


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118338066#Comment_118338066

    Is it just me, or are Dublin 15 drivers a tad worse than drivers in the rest of Dublin? (Not sure whether your 3 dopes were in Dublin 15 but I do seem to encounter more crap driving there than elsewhere in Dublin).

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  • #2509
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,531 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118362027#Comment_118362027

    Definitely seems that way when I'm cycling through Mulhuddart, a lot of my close calls are towards the end of my commute around D15.

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  • #2510
    Wildly Boaring
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118362362#Comment_118362362

    I raise your D15 a Louth and I double raise my Louth with Donegal mad men

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  • #2511
    magicbastarder
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    there are certain car regs where i would automatically trust the driver less when i see them. maybe there are a lot of cork reg cars on the road, or maybe people driving cork reg cars are worse than average, but in the interests of self-preservation, i behave as if the latter is true.

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  • #2512
    magicbastarder
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    also on the ballymun road today (we were in the car) - the lights went red at the pedestrian crossing near the supervalu, and the chap in the white focus in front of us shimmied around the car in front, whose driver had probably already come to a stop, and floored it through a red which had been red for probably four seconds. a couple of people had already started to cross. i keep meaning to buy a dashcam; that's a set of lights whose only function is for a pedestrian crossing, so it was clear who'd have been given a green.

    someone else nearly took me off the bike at the next junction up a couple of weeks ago.

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  • #2513
    [Deleted User]
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    Had 3 close calls in one day about 6 weeks ago, just very close passes, while out around Athlone. Each one scared the living crap out of me.

    After the third I decided to permanently take the middle of the lane regardless. 100% of the time, I'm in the middle of the lane. I've done this in the past on certain roads but now it's every road, every street, every day, every time.

    Zero close passes since as it forces drivers to wait and overtake safely rather than trying to squeeze through.

    Do I get honked at? On a daily basis.

    Do I care? Not a jot.

    Do I feel safer? 1,000,000%

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  • #2514
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,531 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118370357#Comment_118370357

    Motorists get angry about doing this but it literally makes no difference. If it's safe to overtake they'll have the full lane on the other side of the road to pass so it doesn't matter if you're in the middle or the side of the lane. A car would take up the full lane and you need to go into the opposite lane to pass so there's no issue other than hating cyclists. I just don't get it. The amount if people who refuse to cross the lane marker to pass cyclists when the opposite lane is clear is mind boggling.

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  • #2515
    magicbastarder
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118370408#Comment_118370408

    in this case, it was a couple who were not that steady looking on their feet, so they were slow to get crossing. would have been closer had they been more more agile.

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  • #2516
    tnegun
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    I was sent this on WhatApp so can't credit the original poster.

    A close pass of a different kind, I'll think twice next time I'm passing Weston! edit: Just in case its not actually Weston but somewhere in the US I guess.

    https://streamable.com/3w1yzc

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  • #2517
    magicbastarder
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    reminds me of the streetlights at the western end of the runway in dublin, i've wondered on occasion while the poles are so short, whether it's just in case a plane is coming in or leaving unusually low.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4245484,-6.3056236,3a,75y,294.76h,93.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5wZMAXzcxfBzk3suJ-XAyA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

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  • #2518
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    Does the height have any bearing on how they would be seen from the air at night?

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  • #2519
    magicbastarder
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    there's obviously a reason why lights would be a certain height, e.g. you can see the difference here between a minor and major road:

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3873195,-6.2649466,3a,75y,158.6h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suJ4-qfoDxNxkBuZjnVaGEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

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  • #2520
    kennethsmyth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭kennethsmyth


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118134847#Comment_118134847

    Pull in front of bus and just stop for a minute fixing an imaginary pedal or something and when he/she gets agitated tell him/her what they have just done to get a couple of seconds in front and that now that extra time is gone

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  • #2521
    bmc58
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭bmc58


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118428979#Comment_118428979

    Bus drivers are a law onto themselves.

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