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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • #1292
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The number of crap overtakes both on the approach and also on the roundabout itself (when I'm taking the first left towards Leixlip) has resulted in me clearly taking the lane to the point that there clearly isn't room to overtake without risking their paintwork.

    The clown overtaking you into the bend is just utter stupidity!

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  • #1293
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    We had a fun school run this morning

    https://twitter.com/nolankucd/status/1443494338470756354?s=21


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  • #1294
    5uspect
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    https://twitter.com/nolankucd/status/1444004097603080200?s=21

    Here’s one form this evening.

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  • #1295
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Two close passes within minutes of each other this afternoon. I was heading home early to go to Lucan Gardai station to give a statement and submit the video of the black Nissan above. Open videos in the YouTube app for the 360 version for the visceral feel.

    https://youtu.be/iccN8AUoXyA
    https://youtu.be/b1VU9kxz9xs

    On a positive note the Gardai I spoke to today were sympathetic.

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  • #1296
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Not a near miss but could easily have been the end of a kid in a buggy or someone coming out from one of the side entrances - absolutely feckin mental...

    https://twitter.com/AlanDub13/status/1447883907421118467


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  • #1297
    5uspect
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    This happened yesterday, exact same spot as the one above. I **** despair.

    https://twitter.com/nolankucd/status/1447628235580317699?s=21


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  • #1298
    5uspect
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    Mine? It's the Lower Lucan Road.

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  • #1299
    RobertFoster
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118014665#Comment_118014665

    Station Rd. in Portmarnock, heading east: https://goo.gl/maps/CwWGun8m5ybai1ke6

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  • #1300
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Had a near miss with a pedestrian last night in the dark. Should have spotted him but I think I was focused on cars and looking down at the manholes at the time. Annoyed with myself for something that now looks quite obvious...

    https://youtu.be/pRuBenk-c6o


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  • #1301
    MojoMaker
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    Horrible stretch, right by the golf club. Avoid on a bike!

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  • #1302
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    I brought my ebike in for a service to Citywest today. On the approach to the N7 from Baldonnell a Callinan Coaches bus driver sped past me against an oncoming car and then immediately turned into what I presume is the new Amazon warehouse. He was insanely close. When I went up to him to ask what the point of it was he just verbally abused me.

    200m down the road and coming to the on-ramp for Brownsbarn with another one of their coaches passing in the driving lane a blue BMW buzzed between us again insanely close. Fucker went to the petrol station where again I caught up and of course it was all my fault for merely existing.

    What was supposed to be a quick spin down to drop off my bike after work was the worse cycle of my life. What’s the **** point?

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  • #1303
    5uspect
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    Just an update. The coach company has been responsive and is dealing with the driver and will be communicating the importance of safe overtaking to all their drivers. They also will cooperate with the Gardai when ever the traffic watch report is acted on.

    I didn’t use a camera because it was just a short trip to drop off the bike.

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  • #1304
    crosstownk
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    ^^ I commuted to Baldonnel for a year or so and still cycle that way regularly. The roads around Baldonnel Business Park are totally inadequate for the traffic that uses them. The whole area has turned into a logistics superhub - from NVD to Amazon and a heap of other distribution centres. An ideal location, no doubt but the roads are too narrow and winding.

    None of the above is an excuse for close passing a cyclist but the roads certainly don't make for a safe cycling environment.

    I regularly meet NVD articulated car transporters on this road as well as large 40ft curtainsiders. Lots of tipper trucks due to the construction of additional logistics warehouses that will lead to even more HGVs. There's also the red double decker buses using the back of the old Lufthansa Airmotive site to shuttle Intel staff back and forth to Leixlip during the construction works there.

    Imagine being overtaken by an articulated truck here and suddenly another appears oncoming around the bend........ It almost makes the N81 look like paradise!!

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    That whole area is so built up that Newcastle has been practically swamped by industrial units. I'm sure Celbridge will be next in 10 or so years.


    Apologies for the mostly OT post.......................

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  • #1305
    Wishbone Ash
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    Startled by a very close pass this morning on a deserted road outside Skerries just after 6am. It was strange because the driver passed me very slowly with their right indicator flashing but didn't really change their position on the road. No aggression/horn blowing so I'm wondering if the driver just lacked spatial awareness. It was dark and wet but I was well lit up.

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  • #1306
    hesker
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118097682#Comment_118097682

    I encountered the same thing about 3 or 4 times on the Tour de Beara this year, without the snot rockets thankfully. Made me think it was on purpose to try to dissuade me from drafting on to the back of the group, which I had no interest in doing anyway. But definitely had that intimidatory vibe to it.

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  • #1307
    Seth Brundle
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    Saw this on StickyBottle...

    https://twitter.com/SheffNW_NPT/status/1455510158080151554?t=c8fJWZXRnRSRcB0DLdaf3w&s=19

    Backstory: A trucker has been sanctioned with a driving ban for a head-one near miss with a cyclist – who just happened to be an off-duty pro-cycling-camera police officer.

    https://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/video-trucker-banned-after-head-on-near-miss-with-off-duty-cop-out-training/


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  • #1308
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    (Not quite a near miss but...) Went out last night to collect my laptop from the office. Heading back towards home, I stopped at a red light (on the Ballyowen Road in Lucan). A bus pulled up beside me. When the light went green, the driver did this...

    https://youtu.be/twlGTk3ZyRo


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  • #1309
    gn3dr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭gn3dr


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118187437#Comment_118187437

    Surely the cyclist has some fault there for undertaking the van??

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  • #1310
    buffalo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118187753#Comment_118187753

    She started overtaking on the left before driver started indicating, so perfectly legal manoeuvre. Onus is on the driver to signal in time and check the path is clear before progressing. Hard to check your blind spot in a van like that I'd say, but that doesn't remove the responsibility from the driver.

    An experienced cyclist would be cautious about being on the inside of a vehicle coming to a left turn, but that doesn't make it the cyclist's fault.

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  • #1311
    gn3dr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭gn3dr


    She was undertaking. Similar to how the video taker was undertaking the Citroen just before. That car seemed to come pretty close too. Yes driver should be checking mirrors but no-one should be undertaking.

    Put it like this - if she was riding a motorbike and did the same thing - who would have been wrong?

    If ever I am in traffic and I need to pass slower cars I generally overtake on the right.

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  • #1312
    buffalo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118187931#Comment_118187931

    You need to update yourself on the rules of the road - cyclists are explicitly allowed to overtake other vehicles on the left, except in certain conditions, none of which were present here.

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  • #1313
    gn3dr
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    Believe it. But I don't want to get into an internet argument.

    Hands up - I actually didn't know it was legal to undertake - however I wouldn't do it unless at slow speed and the cars were stopped. It never feels safe.

    As mentioned above - a bit of experience on her part would have helped - coming up to a junction like that a left turning car is always going to be a risk.

    Finally if you stop the video at 11 secs you can see that the indicator was on before she actually started passing the van. Also consider that the side repeater indicators on the van should also have been in her vision.

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  • #1314
    Duckjob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    It's not even about checking his mirrors before the turn. Any half-decently observant driver knowing they are going to be turning left soon would have clocked the ongoing presence of a cyclist approaching on the left from about 6 secs onwards (just after she passed the car behind), and known to hold back for a second or two until she had gotten safely past.

    Judging by some of the comments here we really hold drivers to some sh*te standard of driving these days.

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  • #1315
    Seth Brundle
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    Interesting but not really surprising...

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    from this tweet...

    https://twitter.com/ETSC_EU/status/1461356632042979339


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  • #1316
    buffalo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118189937#Comment_118189937

    In practice it can be a right of way over cyclists coming from behind, as they are not allowed overtake on the left if a driver has indicated an intention to turn and there is a reasonable expectation that the vehicle will execute a movement to the left before the cycle overtakes the vehicle (as per the relevant SI).

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  • #1317
    gn3dr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭gn3dr


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118190433#Comment_118190433

    Probably the last I'll comment on this as I figured this discussion was just going to go this way, but just to counter whatever is telling you I don't cycle at all - I cycle plenty - just over 6100 km in the last 12 months. And I have plenty experience cycling - started racing underage in the '80's. However I also drive (and have done so competitively also) so I have an awareness from that perspective too (I get the feeling that this thread is populated by a lot of non driving cyclists - and probably a good percentage of those are a certain type also I'd say)

    I've never had an accident with a car while on my bike. Could I have had - yes - if I cycled with the assumption that everyone around me was going to do everything by the book and had excellent cycling or driving ability. They don't. There are a lot of idiots out there. And that is why everyone has a duty of care to themselves by having the awareness of what could happen. She did not show that at all.

    That cyclist in the video could have made reasonable progress if she had been travelling at the same speed as the van. The difference in speed was marginal and from whoever posted the screenshot above it is very clear that the indicator was on BEFORE she had passed the back of the van. And no one has acknowledged that the side repeaters would also have been in her view even when she started passing.

    Back to the cycling training, racing and equipment topics of this forum for me though - this thread turned out to be what I expected - sorry I posted here. One for me to avoid in the future. 🙄

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  • #1318
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Anyone who cycles around the Leixlip/Lucan/Dunboyne/etc areas wil be familiar with the red double decker busses that are used to ferry contractors from car parks to the Intel construction site. People will also no doubt be familiar with the behaviour of many of their drivers. I'm at the point where I'm fed up with them.

    This was this morning's pointless overtake...

    https://youtu.be/zNtOrggaODc


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  • #1319
    buffalo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭buffalo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225173#Comment_118225173

    Complain to Intel - either via Twitter (https://twitter.com/Intel_IRL) or email (intel.ireland.corporate.affairs@intel.com).

    The last time I sent them a video of a stupid overtake, they took strong action against the driver. PM me if you want details.

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  • #1320
    5uspect
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225173#Comment_118225173

    Same crowd that nearly ran me off the road in Baldonnell a few weeks back. I do a lot of work with Intel so I'll be raising this with them also.

    The bus I was on the receiving end of was 05-G-17730.

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  • #1321
    5uspect
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    I actually know that person at Intel through my work interactions with Intel. I’ve emailed the previous address about my experience.

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