Cycle infrastructure planned for north Dublin

Effects · 26-11-2021 01:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118224122#Comment_118224122

Cars can rarely travel faster than a bike on that stretch anyway. And same goes for overtaking opportunities, as there's nearly always traffic in both directions.

Squidgy Black · 26-11-2021 03:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118224122#Comment_118224122

Last update to the DCC site about it was back in August.

Haven’t seen any other bits of construction starting, other than them working on the malahide road opposite Graingers but would imagine that’s unrelated work.

Seth Brundle · 26-11-2021 04:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118226384#Comment_118226384

Presumably that doesn't stop drivers trying to overtake anyhow.

magicbastarder · 27-11-2021 07:50PM

nothing actually planned here; just some theorising about how to create an LTN:

https://twitter.com/iona_residents/status/1464549380615290882

budhabob · 27-11-2021 09:12PM

I cycle Glasnevin to up by the airport a few times a week. The cycling infra is poor to say the least, but I picked a route that on paper has almost 100% cycle lane. On paper alot is supposed to be shared space but not an ounce of paint to identify it as a shared space.

I contacted FCC and was told "it's pencilled in for painting"....zero dates given.

magicbastarder · 27-11-2021 09:26PM

do you head up the swords road, or up ballymun road first?

budhabob · 27-11-2021 10:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233565#Comment_118233565

Up the Ballymun Road, then across by the Sports clinic / Crown plaza, and onto the swords road. Bike line all the way by going that route. By the Omni it gets pretty hairy so I avoid that.

Effects · 29-11-2021 12:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233170#Comment_118233170

Being originally from the area, I'm not sure how much I'm into that. Pushing traffic from where I used to live, up to Hart's Corner, and down Whitworth Road, to get to Drumcondra. Traffic is already really bad on those routes. My father still lives in the area, and is disabled. So he can't get anywhere without his car. I cycle most of the time myself, so it won't affect me too much, but it'll add about 30% on to my journey when I visit him by car. I'm afraid to even show this to him. It's hard enough listening to him complaining about cycle lanes these days, and he was a cyclist for the majority of his life.

Effects · 29-11-2021 10:55PM

I'm just finding traffic is getting worse all the time. Recently went from Glasnevin, through Harts Corner to Christchurch. It was 8.10 pm and there was still loads of traffic coming towards the quays, backed up as far as the Dorset St, Smithfield junction. I was on the bike, but if I was in the car, at that time, I'd be stressing out.

Murph_D · 04-12-2021 07:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118239322#Comment_118239322

I’ll be amazed (but pleased) if the proposers get this one through. Very difficult to get residents to sign up to limiting their own access. Even obvious parallel one way systems line Iona / Lindsay get shot down because, ultimately, it’s hard to get individuals to inconvenience themselves for the common good, as I’ve seen in my own area in Fairview. The only thing people tend to rally behind is permit parking.

But neighbours could look out for the elderly; pharmacies could deliver (this used to be a thing, before everyone had a car. I had a friend who delivered all over Dublin 1/3/7/9 on a bike, for a Dorset St chemist in the 70s).

I wish this project the best of luck all the same.

magicbastarder · 04-12-2021 07:38PM

the labour representative for ballymun/finglas is a cyclist (and cargo bike owner), but he's not an elected official. i don't know what his ambitions are on that front. but i'll be asking him how much sway his opinions on cycling have in the local party.

Seth Brundle · 08-12-2021 10:13AM

https://twitter.com/HowthMalahide/status/1468229160543952900

Looking at some of the responses to the above tweet, seemingly they have a car park, there is a bus stop across the road and there is another car park 100m down the road but still, no to the cycle path because it will stop people parking where they want.

Squidgy Black · 08-12-2021 10:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118288999#Comment_118288999

There’s no real parking along that stretch anyways, there’s a cycle lane there currently but they just park up on it and block the narrow as it is path.

loyatemu · 08-12-2021 02:16PM

"cycling is religious persecution" - that's a new one to add to "cycling increases pollution" and "cycling is anti-disabled"

Duckjob · 08-12-2021 03:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118288999#Comment_118288999

Translation: "our mainly car-driving members have been abusing vulnerable road users for years by parking where they like just because they could, and now you're going to do something that's going to put a stop to it! WAH WAH WAH it's not fair WAH WAH WAH"

ARX · 08-12-2021 04:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118290486#Comment_118290486

You forgot "ageist".

No doubt in the fullness of time it'll be sexist, racist and transphobic as well.

Effects · 09-12-2021 03:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118288999#Comment_118288999

Car park looks like it can hold less than ten cars. Which should be enough for regular congregation for a presbyterian service.

ARX · 09-12-2021 03:47PM

If the congregants were getting paid a thousand euro a head for each car they managed to fit into that car park every Sunday I'd say they'd manage to get about 20 cars in there.

At 5 people per car (Covid won't be forever) that's a hundred people. I'm sure some Christian souls would be happy to collect anyone who wanted to attend but wasn't one of the lucky hundred.

EDIT: the church capacity is 150. As the proposed cycle lane would "block accessibility to worship for 99% of the congregation" that's 1.5 persons who can get to the church by some means other than driving, so that's 48.5 persons who would have to be collected.

magicbastarder · 12-12-2021 06:02PM

crossed griffith avenue from old ballymun road to ballymun road yesterday while out walking; i.e. we passed the work on the junction there to make it more cyclist friendly. one thing i will say, i would consider buying shares in traffic light and traffic pole manufacturers, they'll have a bumper year from this year alone. there are dozens of poles there - probably 30?

magicbastarder · 12-12-2021 07:15PM

cyclists heading the way we were coming will have to shimmy twice; they'll be pulled into a path specifically for bikes and then pushed back out of it. it seemed... inelegant.

Seth Brundle · 13-12-2021 04:52PM

Looks like someone needs good PR advice - originally posted on Friday at the launch of the Hole in the Wall extension, Fingal and Dublin City mayors think it is a good idea to pose for a photo-op whilst holding their disposable coffee cups beside cars parked in the shiny new cycle lane...

https://twitter.com/seanaorodaigh/status/1469279282186887173

Effects · 13-12-2021 05:01PM

Where exactly is that road extension?

Seth Brundle · 13-12-2021 05:24PM

Here (although it's not on the map): https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4097578,-6.1613113,561m/data=!3m1!1e3

It joins from the spur in the above map to the junction of Drumnigh & Mayne Rds

Fingal Co Co page on it: https://www.fingal.ie/news/fingal-council-appoints-contractor-start-work-hole-wall-road-mayne-road-junction-upgrade

Larbre34 · 14-12-2021 01:14AM

Jesus, the amount of wanky comments on twitter would make you puke.

The truck was pulling a coffee trailer supplying refreshments. The road wasn't even open to traffic yet at the time of the photo, as can clearly be seen by the black Audi parked sideways across the lane and the people standing around chatting.

The endless churlishness from the cycling lobby is one of the main reasons there is such push back, just for the sake of it.

ARX · 14-12-2021 09:24AM

Is the cycle lane able to take the weight of a truck without damage? The new cycle lanes on Lower Kilmacud Road near the Stillorgan Shopping Centre seem to be a thin layer of tarmac on top of a bed of sand, and they are already uneven. Would the weight of a lorry damage something like that?

Seth Brundle · 14-12-2021 09:24AM

The truck was pulling a coffee trailer supplying refreshments. The road wasn't even open to traffic yet at the time of the photo, as can clearly be seen by the black Audi parked sideways across the lane and the people standing around chatting.

The truck had to mount a kerb, cross a grass verge and then plonk itself on the cycle path. Why would they do this when they could have literally parked blocking the whole road like the Audi? There appears to be absolutely no reason for it to be parked there.

The simple answer is that it was there because that is the convention. "Can't be blocking the road - f*ck cyclists, sure they can go around me". Its the same across the country. Any cycling infrastructure is there to get people on bikes out of the way of drivers and it is down to bad planning and a complete ignoring of DMURS. Cyclists should be grateful for the tit-bits of infrastructure provided and stop getting into a strop if I block it for a while. It is because officially in Ireland we don't give a sh*t about tossers on bikes, ass your post pretty much confirms.

14-12-2021 11:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318173#Comment_118318173

You used to be better at trolling

magicbastarder · 14-12-2021 11:31AM

mod note: if you think someone is trolling, report it. otherwise you're just going to start arguments.

Seth Brundle · 23-12-2021 08:14PM

Aah deadly...

https://twitter.com/naoiseomuiri/status/1474049904255414274?t=cmMkx0I6fvQpOgaqYjwI5w&s=19

cgcsb · 24-12-2021 02:30PM

The first condition being that the tender price in may is still valid. Well its not, left it way too long, costs have spiraled. I doubt this will happen tbh. But fingers crossed it will.

Cycle infrastructure planned for north Dublin

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