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Formula 1 Round 22 Abu Dhabi GP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,826 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    only one outcome once the lapped traffic was released. so not exciting at all. I wasnt jumping out of my seat when that announcement was made.

    My weather

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Is this what you're doing with your free time Kimi?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,809 ✭✭✭weisses




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    Just to throw another spanner in the works.

    ”There’s a requirement in the sporting regulations to wave all the lapped cars past,” Masi said.

    From the Eifel GP last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Just Some Young Lad


    Yes - it was very sad that Kimi's last race resulted in him retiring the car. He has always been one of my favourite drivers on the grid and he was an incredible driver in his day.

    Gasly in absolute animal. I can't wait for him to get another big seat to see what he can really do. I think he has matured so much as a driver and its a credit to his determination and work ethic that he has done so well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,750 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I've not said it isnt. But only allowing some of them to unlap is not. Any lapped cars are required to unlap. 2 did not.


    Safety car us to come in the end of the following lap. That also did not happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    What happened to Bottas that the Gasly and Yuki finished ahead of him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭tigerboon


    Exactly. All the teams agreed to a restart with the lapped cars holding position. They would be obliged to let Verstappen through and could easily have been told to do so immediately by race control. This would leave Verstappen a few seconds behind on much fresher rubber and the race likely to go to the line (or the last turn). That would have been the spectacular finish everyone wanted. Mercedes didn't even object to this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    They switched to softs under the SC while Bottas stayed on the old hards. Another Mercedes bad call.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Just Some Young Lad


    I think that it is unfortunate that Mercedes feel aggrieved. It was an excellent season from two fantastic drivers representing two outrageous teams. Someone had to lose. I don't disagree that the entire season has been plagued with inconsistencies from stewards and I suppose in turn the RD, including yesterday's race. Some of these have gone Mercs way, some to RB.

    What Masi did, albeit unfortunate for Merc, is not against the rules. The RD has the overriding say. Now, I understand the upset - I think that for the new season a lot must be done to make the rules a lot less abstract.

    Verstappen was a deserving winner. Hamilton was gracious in defeat and showed his quality as a sportsperson. Mercedes are purposefully trying to taint this championship for Max now, no matter what way you look at it and that is a despicable route to take for a team that deservedly won the constructors and so much more in the last decade.

    I don't think that people are bashing Max but they are excusing Mercs actions. There wasn't this much raucous after Silverstone and that was equally controversial.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,426 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    No, you have dodged the question. I didn't ask what he can do, I asked why he skipped the logical solution and choose to go with such a clearly problematic one.

    You are very transparent by the way, I have more respect for the lads who just flat out say they hate Hamilton and are glad he got screwed over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Because he didn't want the race to end under a SC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Even if it took 2 seconds or even 1 second (with no DRS enabled) to pass the lapped cars safely and it probably wouldn't have been safe given they were also fighting their own battles, that would have been enough for Hamilton to win. Verstappen charging like a madman through lapped cars who were also trying to fight off other cars, could have ended in carnage. Allowing those cars move out of the way was probably the safest thing to do.

    In any case Hamilton proved why he didn't deserve to be world champion, as despite having more straight line speed and the advantage of a number of tows on the final lap he couldn't get around Verstappen.

    Best driver won thankfully.

    And they really need to look at the engine change rule which allowed Hamilton back into the championship. It should be 10 place penalty every time as 5 places is not enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Mercedes social media is embarrassing. No mention of their 8th consecutive constructors title, no congrats to their team, no thank you to Bottas etc.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Safety being the main but trying to use less fuel and increase hybrid tech being another. Tech in F1 gets passed back into the main stream cars that we buy at some point so its a good proving ground the tech is solid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭dloob


    Yes it should. It seems like it went on before just wasn’t public. There needs to be some communication but there is too much lobbying at the moment, I’m not sure how you would curtail it though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    I'm with Kimi on this, I enjoy the racing, but everything else outside the white lines is what I hate more and more. The politics, the lobbying, the inconsistency left right and centre all really annoy me.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    This is disingenuous as ****. You know full well that Max was always going to have the advantage on the brakes and covered him off excellently. Trying to make Hamilton look incompetent is a stupid take and it makes you sound like you don’t appreciate the effort Max went through to keep Hamilton behind, tyre advantage or not.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Clearly you missed the start of the conversation.

    If the overriding concern is not ending under a safety car, then why not restart the race immediately without unlapping any cars?

    That is far more logical than what was done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,809 ✭✭✭weisses


    That was another option ... He choose not to use that option



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Because Mercedes whinged and moaned about the first red flag last week so I'm sure that was playing on his mind also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    For anyone saying Lewis was gracious in defeat i would counter that a little. Lewis is and has a PR monster in mind and needs to present and element of calm after that result to protect brand Hamilton (reminds me of Brand Beckham a little). He knew fine well Toto would be the one to chase this after the flag dropped and for the record i firmly believe his dad in his ear post race was telling him to be the bigger person and publicly be nice about it. That way he can remove himself from the fall out that the Merc team is creating.. However behind the scene i think he is trying everything to overturn the result.

    Also and i fully believe a lot on here will shoot this down i do not think for a red hot min that RBR would be as opposing if the tables were turned. Fir sure they and Horner would have been vocal but i dont believe he would have rocked up with a QC in hand and logged the protests to the level Merc/Tot has.


    Not a mad Hammy fan but dam he has skills in car and is a rare breed of a driver and full respect for the 7 WDC so far, will he make 8? dunno as i think this may have been the chance to get it done given the new era upon us in 2022



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    It reinforces that Masi was wrong but doesn't change anything really, most people already know that Masi wasn't following any precedent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Yeah, Ferrari did well with Sainz and the Mclaren was in good shape also, Shame Danny Ric was not higher up the gird but the boy Tsunoda with the help of Albon 2nd half of the season had a run in... learning his craft but needs to continue in 22 without the guidance as Albon has his own drive to think on after being graced a 2nd chance



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Hamilton said he doesn’t want to win a title in the courts after 2007.

    He has form for this so maybe, just maybe he’s actually genuine?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    If Max is competent for keeping him behind, why couldn't Hamilton do the same? Max is known for going down the inside, he's done it countless times on Hamilton and on the second turn, Hamilton opens a barn door for him and doesn't make much of an effort to hold his ground. Its all about bottle at this stage. The cars were evenly matched at this stage, what Verstappen had on tyres, Hamiliton had on speed. The difference was driving ability.

    Do you agree Hamilton gave Verstappen way too much room when he was passed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,970 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Did Latifi over condolences to Hamilton?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    Disagree, it enforces that the decision from one race to another is different as the underlying circumstances are difference and also track and condition of the track. he was bang on the money yesterday, some you win and some you lose.



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