Students Challenge University Vaccine Pass Policy

90% effective? Since when?

They do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent a car crashing and I certainly will not be wearing one myself. Seat belt laws are satanic fascism and the beginning of a new world order.

Just donated. Cheers for the heads up.

I need stupid people to donate to a gofundme for myself as well. I need a house myself. Where can I find these stupid people donating?

As a patient, I'm not that worried about what health approach any health practitioner follows for themselves: I don't care if they're vegan, practise Buddhist meditation, anoint themselves with essential oils, etc.

What I care about is that they provide me with appropriate medical care, and ensure that I have the chance to give informed consent to suggested body-changing interventions. And that they are tested to prove they are healthy before working with me - rather than just relying on a vaccine which MAY reduce the severity of illness if they get sick.

I'm completely sick of moaning, whinging, self entitled students crying over their perception they've been hard done by during this pandemic. Christ almighty grow up, a recent segment on the awful live line just highlighted how absurd this nonsense has become.

I'm left to wonder is the next generation turning out to be hypochondriac, anxiety consumed , moronic, blittering idiots FFS , try be a student in the 80's/ 90's , like I was, then they'd understand actual Hardship 😡

All of Society has been challenged by the pandemic, if Society as a whole behaved like some students, the country would come to a stand still 🙄

Apart from the obvious legal issue of maintenance, the data protection commissioner has already expressed approval in relation to healthcare workers and vaccination, so gdpr is a dead end.

As for the discrimination end of things....i suspect that they are not under any disability that could ground a discrimination case.

So to all the donors, go ahead, waste your money. I think it would be better spent setting cash ablaze.

First point, magicbastarder ,this was my thought on reading the GoFundMe header.

Better they go to court so ...no doubt Ronan will be in there all the way with them until they have no more use for him

On the second point , growleaves ,they will not get qualified in the first place so no fear they will be working in any hospital or any other health care situation any time soon ,thankfully .

Who would want an eejit like these two caring for any vulnerable patient never mind work alongside them ( and I mean that in a holistic sense , not just as regards the vaccines !)?

All healthcare workers have to have bcg, tetanus , mmr , or have tested immunity , and in some cases hepatitis vaccines up to date at the very least , so Covid vaccines are totally expected ,for obvious reasons .

Support them by all means ,but they won't be qualifying .This is just another stupid pvsstake by the antivaxx contingent.

Very few people are living in fear of the unvaccinated, because most people know that they are not causing problems. I went to a hospital appointment last week, I was asked lots of questions in relation to past medical history, any medication I was on etc. Also lots of covid related questions such as if I had symptoms, travelled, in contact with a known case. But was never once asked if I was vaccinated. Why is this? It's because they couldn't care less that's why.

The only people who care are keyboard physicians.

" or have tested immunity " eg via heaf test / mantoux test.

No bcg since 2015 , but I suspect most people should have immunity in Ireland for at least the next 12 or 13years from prior vaccination.

Honestly as someone older than these students myself your comment makes you sound old & cranky. Every generation thinks they had it harder than those behind them. This generation of students have been hugely impacted by Covid. There wasn’t a pandemic in the 80s/90s, certain things were hard but people werent forced to isolate from eachother & that is huge. Younger people are very dependent on their peer group. Of course the oldest & vulnerable had it the hardest but Im sick of turning on the news & seeing different age groups giving out about eachother.

Don’t see this case succeeding though. They seem to have misunderstood the meaning of discrimination.

There is no doubt that, while the people most at risk from Covid are the elderly, the burden of measures designed to prevent the spread of Covid has fallen disproportionately on the young. Sure, everybody has to respect lockdown rules and mask rules and so forth, but the effect of doing so is much greater for young people than for older people - disruption to education will have lifelong consequences, being isolated from your peer group impacts young and single people much more severely than older people, etc. People who are in casual or irregular employment, and/or in jobs that can't be done from home, have been impacted much more than those in permanent jobs that can be done remotely - and those people are disroportionately young. Etc, etc.

In short, what we have seen over the last couple of years is a massive act of intergenerational solidarity, with young people accepting very substantial detriments to their own lives, substantially for the protection and benefit of older people. It would be churlish - and, ironically, selfish and entitled - of older people not to acknowledge this.

This particular challenge to vaccination rules, ironically, is a challenge to rules which will tend to benefit young people, and which do not impose significant detriment on them. The more people who are vaccinated and the more successful vaccination is, the less the need for lockdowns, social distancing, etc. This challenge threatens the welfare both of older people (who are more vulnerable if Covid spreads because people are unvaccinated) and younger people (who are likely to be disproportionately adversely affected by any measure that have to be adopted to slow the spread of Covid).

"Returning to Covid-19. People are forgetting one fundamental: the vaccine does NOT stop you getting sick. It most-likely reduces the severity of your symptoms. It may reduce the chance that you get sick - or it may not, they really aren't sure"

Ahh, the findings are published in the study they have hinged their "case" to, it's stated in the summary.

Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance.

Again, this is the study they want to head to the High Court with.