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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    Anyone follow John Burn-Murdoch on Twitter

    He has done some fantastic modelling of the SA data, the best I've seen.

    He extrapolates out his work to cover the upcoming trend in the UK.

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    My take away from all of this . . . The German Health minister was correct, before this is over you will have either had Covid & recovered or you will be dead.

    Looks as if there's no avoiding this wave, they have been using a metric of 3x more transmissible than Delta but now they believe that an underestimation.

    The UK are already expecting it, some mild restrictions reimposed but with the expected surge in cases around Christmas we know where this is ultimately heading.

    We will lag the UK in case numbers but our more conservative approach may accelerate restrictions. Our 3 layers of protection are the booster jab, the anti-virals & apparent lower mortality rate.

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    Gonna be a rollercoaster of a January



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Denmark does 50% of the EU total sequencing yet has 1.1% of the total population. Amazing eh ?

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    a lot of sense by this GP


    Dr Shane Corr, a GP based in Carrickmacross, has said he cannot understand why the HSE is still persisting with age cohorts for booster vaccines.

    Speaking on RTÉ's Brendan O'Connor programme, Dr Corr said he thinks people should be able to receive a booster whenever they become eligible after having their original vaccine.

    He said it would be "far better" to allow people to make their own appointments.

    "People want to get vaccinated," Dr Corr said. "Pictures of people being turned away from the vaccination centre at UCD... I just thought was extraordinary.

    "And at the same time, the Taoiseach was telling the Dáil people weren't turning up for appointments. It's nonsensical."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    No doubt about it January is going to be a complete disaster for the health service. Omicron is a complete game changer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭Astartes


    Every month is a complete disaster for the health service. Even before Covid. Must be nice to have Covid to blame now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    Not true. I had an operation last October appendix removal attended the emergency room at 7am and was sitting recovering in the ward after the operation at 8pm that night.

    Health service worked fine for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    And hospitals around the world, including in Ireland, were providing everyone with choreographed dance routines in the middle of a pandemic. Amazing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Ah_well.


    I have to admit this Omicron is a real worry. It seems inevitable there are going to be huge case numbers coming in the near future. By sheer weight of numbers it will surely cause big problems even if it is a weaker strain ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    COVID makes it worse. We don't have enough trolleys to play with.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Maybe it will, maybe it won't.

    We'll see. Pretty sure there will be some credible info available at some stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    The case numbers could be expected to hit 15k a day based on the 3x multiplier plus more socialisation in a system that has 30k testing capacity.

    The Helen Lovejoys on FB will guarantee schools will not open post Christmas.

    Contact tracing will have broken down, advice will be for the vulnerable to cocoon. This will rip through the whole population in no more than 6-8 weeks. 2 years to the day Leo put us into Lockdown it will be all over.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Some people on this forum have said that some members of NPHET believe that coronavirus is spread only by droplets but that it's not airborne. But that idea makes no sense whatsoever - the droplets that come from people when they speak or cough or sneeze are microscopic and airborne. So where the hell did the idea of the virus not being airborne come from?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭brickster69


    So with 30K / day testing capacity and 1,500 / week sequencing capacity how is anyone to have a clue what is actually going on with Omnicron in the community ?

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,582 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Got the booster yesterday, wiped out since last night. Heading to bed again now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭maebee


    Same here. I got the Pfizer booster on Thursday morning. It floored me all day yesterday and today. I had nothing but a little tiredness from the first 2 jabs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭Psychedelic Hedgehog


    Moderna booster here, got it Thursday, very sore arm yesterday morning but was wiped out all yesterday afternoon and this morning. Just a bit fuzzy now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    Got the Pfizer Booster just over a week ago. Felt fine after bar a small pain in the shoulder from the needle.

    Don't hear of too many getting reactions and most in my work are getting it over the last 2 weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Pigeon Chaser


    I've switched out a bit ...


    When last I heard, this variant was not really causing severe illness. Has this changed? Why are you of this opinion? Thanks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭brickster69


    I agree with you, i don't see it being the end of the world, might just be the end of finish this thing off once and for all the way things are looking.

    Will be very very interesting how these media and politician bar stewards act in the next week or so.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,473 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Before Covid.

    2019 breaks record for most patients on trolleys – and it’s not even December (inmo.ie)

    2019 has seen the highest number of patients on trolleys in any year since records began – despite it still being November.

    The union has invoked health and safety laws for staff, writing to the Health and Safety Authority and HIQA, seeking their intervention.

    “Winter has only just begun and the record is already broken. These statistics are the hallmark of a wildly bureaucratic health service, which is failing staff and patients alike.

    “We take no pleasure in having to record these figures for a decade and a half. We know the problem, but we also know the solutions: extra beds in hospitals, safe staffing levels, and more step-down and community care outside of the hospital.

    “Five years ago, hospitals like Beaumont consistently faced the most extreme overcrowding problems in the country. They reduced that problem by adding beds and growing community care. Other services can do the same and must be allowed to do so.

    “No other developed country faces anything close to this trolley problem. It can be solved, but a strong political agenda to drive change is needed.

    “The INMO has written to the health and safety authorities this week to try force a change from the employers. Hospitals should be a place of safety and care – not danger.”

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Pretty sure most of them had covid back then, we just didnt know. If it walks like a duck...



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    It was a nerdy technical definition more than anything. "True" airborne viruses don't need droplets to spread, they can flit through the air on their own, whereas non airborne viruses can't. Clearly this is a bit daft in real world terms, when coughing and sneezing, even talking can spread this Woo Flu. It was like our own professor Cormican was and still seems to be handwashing like he should be in an OCD ward stating that masks were of little value, just wash your hands *twitches* and you'll be grand. The clue is in the fúcking name; respiratory virus. You(in most cases) breathe it in from the "air" from the infected breathing it out. Oh sure, grabbing a door handle say, and then wiping your nose(fomite spread for those who get the horn for jargon) is certainly in play, but breathing in the droplets from the air appears to be much more in play.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    One reason only, management of numbers. The walk-in disasters of people just showing up to be turned away just can't cope. I still maintain they need to stop inviting yet another group to queue when they haven't sorted out those most at risk, the over 60s and vulnerable groups. Trying to please the crowd and annoying just about everyone is not a good look.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,336 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Cabinet secretly briefed on massive job losses



    ““There is a moment of reckoning ahead of us,” one cabinet minister warned this weekend.”

    This has been on the cards from the start when the hospitality sector / gyms / entertainment sector were repeatedly singled out as the cause of Covid spread.

    The excuse being peddled out that they’d to prioritise certain areas to reopen over others bears no fruit when nearly all of the adult population got vaccinated and many are now boosted. Gyms help people maintain healthy lifestyles and improve people’s health. There are tweets of empty restaurants with no customers on Friday night in December - when they should be busy.

    People need to make a choice - these businesses are there for us to use & socialise. Do people support government and NPHET policy of closing them early for December? Do people support discrimination in gyms and hotels? Do people support these businesses being let die in 2021 as a direct result of NPHET and Government policy?

    There are economic storm clouds coming - inflation is high as predicted. Monopoly money is being handed out indebting Ireland to the orders and wishes of international financiers in order to prevent social unrest while they implement these policy’s. The representation groups are taking their handouts and staying quiet for now…for how long.

    One positive piece of news those in charge of Western Democracies aren’t highlighting is how mild Omicron is:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    First time i can actually remember that there was a reduction of people in hospital on a Sunday. Usually it’s the opposite unless there’s some data reporting issue. Hospitals down to 504, ICU 109.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It was 481 yesterday in hospital but ICU down OK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Yes but it rose to 511 yesterday morning and now dropped again. Usually you’d see a big jump on Sunday mornings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,956 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    So hospital numbers and cases continue to fall, and all reports on Omicron consistently positive.

    So we can expect Michael Martin to address the nation and remove restrictions any day now, no?



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