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No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,368 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Could be. I can't find any pictures on Google of Avonree houses.

    Ro fab are another one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Arklow buildings were another. The Garda Station House in Bunclody is one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Had these buildings a flat roof?

    There was one near here with a flat roof, a housing estate was built on the land a few years ago, during construction of the estate the builders knocked the chimney and placed their site office on top.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,368 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Seemingly were a few different types.

    Never copped the bunclody garda station before.

    There's a few of these around down here.

    https://nonstandardhouse.com/kencast-precast-concrete-house/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭emaherx


    That one looks a bit more homely, the one I remember was a concrete box with a chimney sticking out of it, roof was a flat concrete slab. Functional and normal enough inside but outside looked industrial.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    No they just looked like a normal house, some were made locally here, they'd be made up in kit form and delivered. they were based on uprights with solid concrete panels slid down between them. I presume they were studded then inside. In the 1970s there was very little insulation used



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Think the one I remember may have been shuttered and poured onsite as opposed to precast panels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    ''Walk straight into your only living area. No utility, no cloakroom, nowhere to put wet buggys and coats. No storage. A shower that everyone in the house watched you in. Jesus it put me right off a doer -upper.''

    That's a review from somewhere else, it about covers it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,988 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


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    Plenty of them about, many wouldn’t notice they are prefabricated panels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Not the station as such smn, but the house behind it for the guard to live in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,324 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    This couple are probably together for the last 4-6 years. They may have travelled a lot and have had a very laid back lifestyle. It never said what she worked at but his main job was as a lecturer. With all assignments and final exams online for the last ten years he may have spend 4-6 months abroad every year depending on her job. She is probably some type of independent contractor as her.income seems to have shrunk when her baby arrived.

    Probably super intelligent but very naive. Are probably very good to rough it at home or abroad. They/he was probably being cute as he did not want the budget to go over board ( which it did anyway) with the architect

    As well if you look at the timeline this house started early 2020 and.only finally finished in the last couple of months. Most of the work was in the last 6-8 months. Build costs have jumped 50% since early 2020.

    What catched me is that Architects and structure engineers take so much for granted. I was watching the BS over this feature strut in the living area. When I did up the old farm house I used such a feature to support the upstairs, no Architect or engineer to pay.

    An awful lot of that generation are caught as renting was cheap from 2010-2016/2018( depending whether in Dublin or elsewhere in Ireland) and they left the property bust behind them and are now paying for it.


    Fur coat no knicker is another analogy. Or as another lad used to say years ago ''Merc outside the door concrete floors'' and they were not polished

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,368 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Had a look on Google maps. I think the station may be too. You can kind of see the vertical panels in it. I think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,368 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I don't know if I should so I'll keep it a little vague.

    A certain UK female shepherdess who appeared on TV is rumoured elsewhere on social media to have split from their husband.

    Wrangler is a big fan.

    Maybe they've posted themselves previously on their social media outlets. Could be in the world we're in now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,324 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    You have to insulate the external walls as well. F@@king fridges was all they were during the winter until external insulation came along. Dry lining was useless with them.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,324 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    That's exactly what I thought bass, very intelligent fella but no way savvy to what was going on. Herselfs cousin is an architect and we had meeting with him when we were thinking about going at the house a few years ago, after about 2 minutes I figured he hadn't much regard for our money and I made sure he got none of it after that. Knew what we wanted anyway and got an engineer to draw up plans for 1500 and that covered everything up to planning approval. She had a more realistic view of our budget and what we could expect to get done for it. Good functional layout too with plenty of light coming into the living areas. That house is standing that family about 200k too much from what I can see at a conservative estimate. Basically gave 325k for a site. Lunacy. Even the 320k to renovate it seems extortionate for the size of it. Must be fair off putting for young people thinking of building to be watching it.



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    Oops, I've inadvertently wandered into the hairdressers, carry on.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Those prefabricated bungalows were known as Roe-fabs (RoFabs?) up in the north West.

    Uncle and cousins had one in Sligo, and they are to be seen in Cavan, Leitrim also.

    Often had a kind of stone/ pebble dash finish on the end walls, you'd imagine they put a layer of smooth stone into a mould/frame and poured in a layer of concrete after.

    Single glazed windows as well, so the thermal efficiency was brutal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,324 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The other thing I noticed was the green area in front of the house. If they do not own that all there light and views are gone if it is build on.

    At a guess they paid 100-150k too much for the house first day. It was in such poor repair that most banks would have refused a mortgage on it. It was a matter of sitting it out.

    It will take another 100k to landscape it. The estimate for the internal foundation were 30k but cost 70k.

    Another thing I saw was lands breaking out internal walls with a sledge. Surely you break outs block with a mango and work from there. Similar with the mini digger breaking out under the windows. You could have structural issues after that.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    70k for that was daylight robbery to be honest. I know there was bit of labour in it but it wouldn't be the most expensive part of the house material wise. Architects should be jumping in and tackling builder about it if they were any good. I'd up to sub floor in our house 1950 sq feet and finish floor in garage for 15k only few months ago and I know well it used a lot more Concrete, steel, stone to do it. Builder has some touch out of it. Even with micro digger you wouldn't be that long gutting it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,324 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I say at that stage they decided to take off roof and replace it. They probably decided on other extras as well. The time lapse mid/late 2020 to spring 2022 was where real price explosion happened.

    I used to think Dermot Bannon was brutal, bit at least he had a QA explaining the details

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭Grueller


    These projects on rte are monuments to architects grandeur is all. Limestone Cowboy hit the nail on the head, they have no regard for their clients money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I'd say too, that my claim that the clients got the money handy isn't far wrong either, sure they threw it away on that job too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I don't know wrangler, maybe so. Once they committed it was very hard to step back anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭dzer2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,714 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Alot of people don't ask for a price beforehand and then get stung .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭wrangler



    We had to do it here without proper pricing, you don't know what you'd meet in an old house,

    House is only built on top of the ground, no foundations

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Just on the bungalow bliss I reckon you'd want to do a lot of the demolition work yourself to keep costs down. Cant understand when they had to remove all internal walls ( unfortunate ) the architect didn't alter plans re layout as seem to put back bedrooms as were before. Anyway looks like I'll have to do something myself, inherited bit of land and bungalow from uncle, he was in nursing home for 8 years, did nothing during that time ( copper cylinder was stolen etc ). Then costs got high but now co co have put derelict notice on it, going to charge 7% of value if nothing done



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,637 ✭✭✭straight


    They're gas with their double height space and flat roofs. Open plan living didn't work out too well for lockdown. You need to educate yourself on what suits you best before you build.



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