EU Proposal on calf transportation. NO MOVE UNDER 35DAYS

Criminal offence...

Should have have been sent back through our accreditation system and the purpotrators charged...

Zore tolerance for that xhyte...some damage done to genuine farmers..

Seems like there was a sting in the tail for the breeders as well 😅

The slaughter/killing of calves is the best way of all to reduce our cattle numbers, which is exactly the measure needed for climate change targets for farming. The Dept should be tasked with buying up (in the market as cheaply as possible) 200/300 or 400,000 calves per annum and 'putting them to sleep'. Or put the job out to tender. It should cost no more than €60m per annum.

The story should be 'You want reduction in numbers - this is the way to go.' Climate change cannot be cost free. I see no reason ANY/EVERY farm organisation would not support this.

'They will not tolerate this' you say.

That mindset will have to be changed. I have absolutely no problem with it and rationally there can be no objection to it. Luckily animals are not rational.

Plenty calves are killed quite young at present; veal calves only live 4/5 months anyway. Sentiments must be changed with Climate Change the driving factor.

Well if you think you can change the mind set of over a billion people in the area where our customers supply. They are not going to damage that market.

Like I said in my previous post ''I do not know why people suggest scenario's that are not compatible with modern ethics and sensibilities''

There is a prayer

''God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

courage to change the things I can,

and wisdom to know the difference.''

In this case it's an unwinnable battle even if we wanted to win it a d Most can see no reason for it. Any business model has to accept there are costs in that model you have to accept

P&O gave up carrying calves on the Landbridge because of negative publicity regarding calf transport. The reason export is going is because of welfare issues. If we cannot [email protected]@king export calves in 2-5 years WTF makes you think you can put a slaughter scheme in place for 2-400k calves. Wake up and smell the coffee.

On African charity or any other questions thing you want to call it. The safest thing for babies is Brest feeding, any concerted program planned from your suggestion would backfire with negative publicity. Baby food and hygiene is a huge issue in poorer countries.

Actually baby formula is more a second world issue than first or third world. In first world mother get parental leave to Brest feed, in third world most women do. It second world working women that buy infant formula so they can go back to work

Kiwi farmers are allowed why can't the paddies do it, given we are actually receiving lower milk prices then them, your argument that woke vegan twitter warriors will shut it down doesn't hold water, why is humane bull calf slaughter for food, unethical but slaughtering lambs is perfectly fine

The industry here has enough issues to be dealing with without further toxic associations with the NZ "Dirty Dairy" model. Plus there is a world of difference between lambs reared for several months outdoors and bobby calves.

What other solutions are their? If co-ops go the arla route where no calf born on farm can be slaughtered before 8 weeks of age, then they are going to have to compensate their suppliers for the financial hit in building calf sheds to accommodate these calves and then the real prospect of giving them away at the 8 weeks if larry and Co faced with a wall of cattle year in and out knowing they have a guaranteed supply, will pay prices that the Brazilians wouldn't even be happy with.....

All of the above complimented with soaring input costs realistically means the beef man mighten even take the calves at 8 weeks, so they'll be going for slaughter anyways....

The other solution is to breed proper stock like what was done for generations in Ireland and get away from the jersey and Holstein rubbish that’s being bred now. Go back to British friesian cows crossed with white heads, Angus, Charlaois, Simmental etc. Then your calves will be worth rearing and you’ll have plenty of customers for them.

Yea you’ll take a bit of a hit on your milk production but stay at the sh**e dairy farmers are at now and you’ll have to take the hit on the cost of building facilities to keep your calves for 7 or 8 weeks and maybe give them away for nearly nothing then just to get them out of the yard.

The choice would be up to you as to which option suits you best.

So dairy farmers don't want to rear the calf and don't want to give them away cheap in case someone else might just make something on them.