What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

When they go my way they are. 😉

You say:

"IMO, In 2020, democrats used COVID as an excuse to make moves that made the election rife for abuse by their surrogates. such as taking seemingly illegal actions against election laws, the misuse and seemingly illegal use of things like ZuckBucks in swing states, and abuses of ballot harvesting by democrat operatives, ensuring a Biden win."

Lies, lies, lies. There is no evidence of any of this rubbish you posted. All lies. How many courts of law (of Republican appointed judges even) does it need to be thrown out of for you to accept it is lies?

Lies. Your leader lied to you.

He lied to you then. He lies to you now. He is a liar. Always has been. Always will be. A big fat liar

Not lies. Some examples...

https://wisconsinspotlight.com/special-investigation-infiltrating-the-election/

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/ag-paxton-san-antonio-election-fraudster-arrested-widespread-vote-harvesting-and-fraud

If you get your US news from the mainstream media then you DO read propaganda.

Recall four years of faux Russia, Russia, Russia propaganda from the media?

So what happened in those cases? They are all months old, nearly a year. One would think that proof would have been shown at this stage, not simply investigating.

But regardless, you have continually claimed it was fraud. Yet provided nothing but possibles.

Why have you chosen to believe Trump, a proven liar, without any evidence?

At what point will you accept that it wasn't fraud, or it it like proving a negative! It can never be done.

And why has Trump stopped the cases? He went all out (60 at least) but seems to have stopped. On such a critical issue, and we can all agree that election security is vital, he seems to have just given up, save of course for repeating it over and over again.

Manifort is currently in prison.

And of course it never got to a real outcome. Unlike your conspiracy that the dems control everything, Trump actually, and openly, fixed it that the DoJ head was working for him and the GOP did everything to protect him.

Trump openly corrupted the investigation but you were too busy worring about Dems to even notice

Save your energy man, it's not worth trying to reason with someone who doesn't want to listen to reality.

Because Trump is (or at least proclaims to be) pro-gun, anti-abortion, said he'd keep the Mexicans out (and the Muslims), would get that steel mill or coal mine in that rust belt town back to work, barely denounces crazy conspiracy theories, openly fans the flames of far-right paranoia, panders to evangelicals, and is rude, loud and crass. Best of all, he really, really, really upsets American liberals. He is what his supporters want. He's not a unifier. He's a big 'f*ck you'. He's all the things a disturbingly large proportion of American voters have apparently been wanting to say for a long time, but have been kind of pussyfooting around, but here it is now in clear language. He is a statement, in bloated man-shaped form, that one side is rapidly losing interest in abiding by political norms. He's a political wrecking ball that's still doing damage. Easy to see why his supporters love him so. There will never be a leader who is a more succinct representation.

Just on your last point so if the GOP do play by the rules. What should they do and also what should their ultimate goal be? Is it a one party system, a trump dictatorship or what did you envision it being?

I think you really should be in the conspiracy theory forum at this stage. It's pathetic.

Hard to believe that the country is salvageable when you see shït like this.

It's interesting to see a Trump supporter, and how anything Trump does can be rationalised. It seems more like a brainwashed cult, or Trump religion, than anything else, and it's certainly not democracy. It's a bit ironic how Trump, and his like, call the democrats 'communist' (thought he obviously doesn't have a clue what communism is), when his brand of anti-democracy is closer to a one party communist system, and where the actual election outcome doesn't count, and the only thing that does count is that he says he won. The man doesn't seem to have a shred of decency, and is clearly delusional, and many of his followers have either followed him into delusion or are so biased that they allow themselves to support his nonsense while still possibly trying to hold decent views on other things (though I'd wonder about that)!

All in all this MAGA stuff is backfiring as far as I can see. What example to any other country in the world is the US holding up? With a good percentage of one of the two main parties believing that the election was 'stolen' and acting on it, with guns everywhere against an imaginary enemy, with religious people expressing views and bigotry that have no place in any religion, with the absolute car crash of a response to Covid that made US excess deaths way above most developed countries in the world. How can any US citizen point to China, or most anywhere else, and somehow claim the moral high ground, despite countries like China not having a system you would envy? Makes me appreciate living in Ireland / Europe.

I don't think he is a Russian spy, or is in prison for being one, but just as you constantly claim that you have answered all questions before I am not going to rehash all the arguments that have been provided for you, and all other Trump supporters, many times on here. That was after repeated denials that Manifort had ever done anything wrong, a claim that the evil MSM were simply out to get him, that justice would prevail yadda yadda.

What Manifort clearly shows is A) Trump will lie, B) Trump has plenty of dodgy friends C) Trump had people around him that were compromised. We also know that Trump brought in his own DoJ head to cut off the investigation, released a false summary of the investigation, refused to take part in the investigation, attempted to besmirch those undertaking the investigation.

Ukraine should have been the final name in the coffin for your support, but as usual everything is glossed over or waved away, and some made up conspriracy about Deepstate or similar is made to try to ignore the blatantly obvious. I mean, Trump said himself that he would gladly accept foreign help to win an election

Republicans should learn from the Democrats that in order to get their agenda though they need to take a win at any cost attitude, and the hell with anything and everything else. In US politics for the last two decades it seems good guys finish last. Just look at the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax nonsense, that democrats knew from the start was total bullcrap and even invented by themselves, pushed for 4+ years and used as the basis for what appears to a soft coup against Trump and impeachment. Would you really fault the GOP if they begin to play by the Democrat's rules?