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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,430 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,654 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,480 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I've seen it mentioned that he would have been in line for top GOP Committee positions if they were to take control in the midterms, but also that he was going to be facing a much tougher election fight due to more balanced redistricting in California.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,989 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse



    You must be confusing me with someone else. Either that our you just fancy me as the representation of the faction that wrongly thought if Trump actually did win the election it would change the outcome of the election. I always maintained that even if there were evidence of wrongdoing in the election, and the resulting investigations indicated Trump gained more than enough electoral votes, it wouldn't change things and the old doddering fool, who campaigned disconnected from everything hidden in his underground basement bunker, would remain president because the election was certified. But I always said that there were problems, irregularities, and illegalities involved in the 2020 election and should be investigated... not to overturn the election, but rather so there can be corrections and rules enacted so that it wouldn't happen again in future elections.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    The big difference was even though it was a humorous roast for Obama, it remained respectful. For Trump it was mean and nasty and downright disrespectful.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,654 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    "mean and nasty". you even copy his language. Trump has a thin skin and no sense of humour.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    If at first you don’t succeed try ,try again. I hope it succeeds and Trump develops something that would combat the rampant bias of Zuckenberg and Dorsey’s malicious actions... ones that helped to throw the election to Biden. Even Dorsey has now admitted his banning of valid investigative reporting during the election was wrong. Give them an inch and they’ll take a yard.


    And a word of advice... reports are out that Facebook will now scour your iCloud account and look for naked pictures of you to capture for themselves.  All in the name of for your own good, you know. Turn a blind eye to their abuses just because it was Trump and you open the door for more of their abuses, IMO.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Either that our you just fancy me as the representation of the faction that wrongly thought if Trump actually did win the election it would change the outcome of the election. I always maintained that even if there were evidence of wrongdoing in the election, and the resulting investigations indicated Trump gained more than enough electoral votes, it wouldn't change things

    So now you accept that there is no evidence of wrong doing. And are now stating that, even if there was, (By democrats), that the independant (And republican recounts) would have ignored these and stated that the "doddering old fool" in his bunker would have won? AFAIK the only thing biden did was follow government guidelines about social distancing.... Guidelines similar to those around the world. The only "doddering old fool" in a bunker was trump during BLM protests.... Y'know, until he tear-gassed them for a photo-op.

    But I always said that there were problems, irregularities, and illegalities involved in the 2020 election and should be investigated

    You always said. And they were (investigated) and were discovered to be lies in 100% of the cases. 100% of the cases that were not thrown out immediately failed.


    Apparently unknown to them the majority of voters have moved on from Trump and are now focused on the current shambles that is the Biden administration. The voters now see Democrat policies are wrong about everything and bad for America, evident by dismal Biden favorability ratings.

    Compared to trump?



    *queue the posting of trump's republican poling and not overall.....

    Post edited by TheIrishGrover on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,651 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    It's these kind of reports that trump and his tech-illiterate henchmen rely on to "prove" liberal bias.

    iCloud is Apple. And yes, it was announced by Apple that this was a proposal. There are genuine privacy concerns with tech companies. Especially in the US. But it's OK. They are only looking up republican's phones. 😀 (See? This is a lie. I can admit when something is a lie)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,430 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    You should write a book - "From cult deprogrammer to cult member." Needs a catchier title but you've a hell of an imagination so it shouldn't be too hard to come with something good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    One thing you're to be applauded for is maintaining a fantastic level of shitposting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Hmmm... I always thought you were above 'yabuts.'

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,170 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Notobtuse. How do you square the circle that on the one hand sees the US completely controlled by the Liberals through the media and deepstate, and yet Trump won in 2016, the controlled congress and the supreme court?

    This is the thing that I can never work out. If the Dems are so powerful, how come they are, at the same time, so completely useless?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭The Quintessence Model


    Lets hope he does. Not a forgone conclusion, but I would still consider it a surprise if he didn't. Though I don't think Trump will actually be the GOP nominee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse



    If you recall, almost everyone thought Trump would lose the 2016 election, even into the evening of election night. Pollsters didn't take the "shy voters' into consideration... those who would not admit they were sick of Obama's march to liberalism, and were afraid to be criticized for admitting they were going to vote for Trump. And democrats believed the pollsters. IMO, In 2020, democrats used COVID as an excuse to make moves that made the election rife for abuse by their surrogates. such as taking seemingly illegal actions against election laws, the misuse and seemingly illegal use of things like ZuckBucks in swing states, and abuses of ballot harvesting by democrat operatives, ensuring a Biden win. Democrats fought against laws that were enacted against ballot harvesting because of the obvious abuses that had taken place. Big surprise democrats fought against the restriction of ballot harvesting in some states, but in 2021 the SCOTUS ruled states can impose rules on ballot harvesting. My opinion, and a hell of a good and valid one, if you ask me.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    In 2020, democrats used COVID as an excuse to make moves that made the election rife for abuse by their surrogates. such as taking illegal actions against election laws, the misuse and illegal use of things like ZuckBucks in swing states, and abuses of ballot harvesting by democrat operatives, ensuring a Biden win. 

    nothing but lies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,170 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    That doesn't even remotely answer my question. Apparently the Dems, working together with the Leftist liberal media, control everything in the US. `to such an extent that no only could they not get HC elected, they couldn't get control of the Senate, are in a minority in the supreme court, lost countless state seats.

    But somehow, after letting Trump slip through their hands, and with Trump in control of all the main levers of the state, managed to enable the biggest voting fraud in US history, together with corrupting the legislature (many of which were given their positions by the GOP) such that they went along with this.

    So on the one hand you believe that this cabal has the ability, nay the actual power to do all this, but also that they are so inept that they simply misread a few polls and merely made an ooposie on election 2016 and let Trump win?

    You actually believe both those positions?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    There's the inverse to that position that I have queried many times before.

    If the Democrats do indeed control so many things via this mysterious "deep state" and are so rampantly corrupt why then when the GOP do managed to gain complete control over the entire apparatus of state do they fail miserably to prosecute even one single Democrat for all these egregious crimes?

    The only options are that the GOP are either inept beyond all measure or alternatively , all their protestations of criminality are completely and utterly unfiltered bullsh!t.

    It's actually both , but even if it was only one of those options it's really not a good look for the GOP.


    Oh and one other thing - There is no such thing as the "shy" GOP voter , they do not exist.

    They didn't exist in 2016 , 2018 or 2020 and they won't exist in 2022.

    Just another one of the utterly fallacious things that GOP/Trump supporters come out with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    I believe democrats and their media handmaidens controlled the messaging in the 2020 election, and the American voters were duped. This is supported by reports that 20% of Biden voters now wish they could take their vote for Biden back and voted for Trump instead, and one-third of Americans believe Biden won because of widespread voter fraud. Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,669 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    1/3 of Americans = Republicans.

    Their god was hammered in the election, but they can’t accept defeat.

    There was no widespread fraud.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse



    The "Shy Trump Supporter” or "Shy Trump Voter" existed in 2016 regardless of what the so-called experts who said Hillary would win big, claim. I witnessed it. I was one of them. I refused to participate in dozens of polls because of it.


    And yes, the GOP is completely inept. They stupidly play by the rules. They need to figure out how to play like democrats if they want to win.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    An Emerson College poll last month indicates Trump would win in a 2024 election against Biden. So much for Trump's low approval ratings, eh? Unless you think there are "Shy Biden Supporters" out there. But there couldn't possibly be any, right?😅

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,170 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    What was the sample size, who was the sample, what level of credibility does the poll have?

    Seems strange that a college, part of the Liberal left elite, would allow such a poll.

    And surely the Liberal left media would have suppressed it.

    How did you even find out about it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    You caught me. Yes, I read the liberal rag 'Newsweek' at times, mostly in doctor's offices. I hope I don't have my GOP card taken away for admitting it. 😅

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-beats-joe-biden-latest-2024-election-poll-1646713

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,874 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I see polls are back as a thing to be trusted again. It’s amazing the cycles these things go in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,430 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Pure desperation from the cultists, it'd be sad if it wasn't so funny!



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