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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Rynaldo


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    Is anyone else finding the rhetoric is becoming a tad sinister, what next Micheal, round us up and put us into camps, for the 'greater good'.


    Leaders worldwide starting to become quite aggressive, certainly well and truly puts me off ever considering getting it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,306 ✭✭✭brickster69


    CoViD PaSsPoRtS wORk

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    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,295 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    @Rynaldo wrote

    Leaders worldwide starting to become quite aggressive, certainly well and truly puts me off ever considering getting it.

    Oh no! And you were just about to, if someone had just found the right combination of platitudes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,306 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Jesus he's fierce boring at this stage. Still uttering this crap a few days after the second successive week of increased restrictions on the vaccinated.

    It's nothing but basic gaslighting really.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    The man just spews bullshit every time he opens his gob, a complete moron!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Why does it put you off getting it? Do you think they are putting something into it? Edited to add that I'm not trying to antagonise you, I'm just curious about why you think that way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Rynaldo


    When the fines start coming in, and I'm cut off from so many aspects of the life I enjoy, there'd definitely be a possibility that I would crack.

    Rhetoric like MM is starting to increasingly spout, like I'm some dangerous disease ridden rat putting everyone in danger because I don't currently want to sign up to a lifetime subscription of vaccination - is so infuriating and insulting that a life of solitude and persecution seem a hill worthy of dying on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,295 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    But don't you feel a bit special? Like the French resistance in WW2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Dr Fred


    A large portion of them appear to be layabout dolers or ex-cons.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Rynaldo


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    @Banana - In my age bracket and being in very good shape without any comorbidities, I myself know I don't need it. At the beginning I was willing to do the 'right thing' given we were told it would stop transmission. Now it seems as though not only does it not stop transmission, but I will also need to likely do this twice a year just to keep the freedoms I was born with, that are now apparently belonging to the state, and given to only those who can comply.


    Finally, and I have to word this carefully as no doubt the shrieks of 'conspiracy loon' will be thrown at me - but, the amount of what I would describe as propaganda / censoring of opinions that don't suit the narrative, constant changing of the goalpoasts, and now finally with what appears to be an attempt at dehumanizing the people that don't fall into line, is giving me a very unpleasant feeling that maybe the conspiracy theorists weren't as crazy as I myself thought they were. I think pride and ego are stopping alot of people right now who deep down are feeling something similar.



    @Lumen - very good 😫



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭jackboy


    This is just classical political deflection. When the people start to turn on you, create an enemy. It is dangerous though, it is a call on the public to hate a certain section of the population.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Are we 100% certain the vaccine doesn’t reduce transmission?

    Do we have scientific evidence the vaccine doesn’t reduce transmission?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭big_drive


    If a person who travelled to uk this morning and due back on Tuesday evening takes an antigen test as required, tests positive. What are the implications?

    Remain in UK, self isolate over there? How long, when can they get home, etc? How many days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Avon8


    This vaccinated stuff actually scares me. We are a vaccinated nation. We have 95%+ vaccination rate. We've defeated the anti vaxers with ease. This scare mongering and restrictions are actually feeding into their conspiracy theories.

    Of the 5%, I know of two unvaxed people. One has had one dose but is 31 weeks pregnant and her doctor told her to hang on until after the birth. The second is 29 weeks and her husband was in bed for 4 days after dose 1, and 2 days after dose 2. She hasn't bothered.

    This is the extent of our anti vax community. Can we please cop the fcuk on and put our efforts and fears into actual productive ways to sort this mess out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,306 ✭✭✭brickster69


    No idea. Probably won't be allowed on the flight. Possibly would have to do MHQ for a week and get a PCR test. MHQ is £2700 / week

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,152 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    95% of the adult population.


    Not the overall population.


    A fact that seems to have gone over many peoples heads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Avon8


    Grand yeah. Pin down toddlers and force jabs into their arms. It may help their 0.00 death rate. Hopefully



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,413 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    I suspect support for closing pubs is at an all time high.

    The only thing that will change this support is an increase in taxation to fund the compensation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,152 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Case numbers going through the roof and every adult I know of in my town who has Covid or recently had was double vaccinated.

    Strangely enough the very few adults I know of that are not vaccinated haven't caught Covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,011 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    It doesn't matter. The simple need a scapegoat and the unvaccinated are it.

    But at least the unvaccinated as scapegoat stops the loons really going after those dirty covid spreading toddlers, so thats something at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭fm


    Maybe it's because the unvaccinated can't get in anywhere,not having a cert is protecting them😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭bloopy


    It is scary what is being promoted at the moment.

    For the last few months I have been trying to get an idea of weekly deaths and icu vaccination status of patients. I did this by using the hspc weekly Friday reports which ran from April 1st until a week before the date of each publication.

    Unfortunately the HSPC nixed these reports Friday just gone and replaced them with a report that starts 27 June until 20 November. Unfortunately this has made it impossible to continue to track the weekly admissions and deaths without going through months of reports. It may be easier if I can compare next Friday's report with this fridays (assuming they keep June 27 as the start date).

    I have also been keeping an eye on the CSO Deaths And Cases Series for the latest update. They have been released every two weeks on a Friday since March 2020. This Friday just gone is the first time that this report has not been released in 20 months. I do not know if it has been nixed also or just delayed until tomorrow.

    CSO report series 36 is at the following link. The figures I will use are from Table A.

    The new style report from the HSPC does give a percentage for confirmed unvaccinated in the total case rate for the period 17 October to 20 November.

    The percentage is 13% confirmed unvaccinated for this period.

    The CSO also gave the weekly percentage for confirmed unvaccinated for each week from 20 August to 12 Novermber (linked above Table A).

    For some of the period in the HSPC report the percentage was:

    22 Oct 32%

    29 Oct 24%

    5 Nov 21%

    12 Nov 12%

    For this period this gives a percentage of 22.25% confirmed unvaccinated.

    Between the 12 Nov and 20 Nov that percentage was reduced to 13% confirmed unvaccinated.

    From what I can work out (and I might have made a mistake in the numbers here somewhere so let me know if I have), the only way that it can be reduced to 13% is if confirmed unvaccinated made up just 4 or 5% of the case numbers for that week.

    Unfortunately this is information that is two weeks old by now. But the percentage confirmed unvaccinated had been dropping pretty rapidly in the weeks leading up to that week.

    Unfortunately, it is difficult to see what (if any ) effect this has had on admissions as the new HSPC reports are now two weeks out of date instead of one. With another week before an updated report is released.

    Assuming they keep June 27 as the start days then it might be possible to calculate weekly admission rates or deaths again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep



    This is a worryingly bold from MM. NPHET pushed behind a govmt relations team on Friday and so they can't counter this particularly aggressive govmt statement coming on the Sunday evening. Now whatever could MM be planning!?! 

    The in-fighting scientists and medics are not blameless and are being played like fools. Looking on the positive side, there is loads of money to be made providing media training to these people :-)  



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    But Leo and Mehole say different! According to those two and their merry band of supporters, the unvaccinated carry covid 24/7, never recover from it, spread it like wildfire and yet hog ICU beds like a middle lane driver on the M50.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Avon8


    Grand pal. You played pedantic Pete about what percentage is vaccinated. My original post was clearly referring to the restrictions imposed on non vaccinated adults and the talk that it may become mandatory in future. We have a miniscule anti vax community that is way too small to matter was my point, and well meaning people are being caught in the crossfire

    The point about kids Is a completely separate matter. Unless you're a conspiracy theorists yourself and you think WHO guidelines are wrong, and that we should be vaxing kids way quicker than we are already, then the point around general population Vax rate is irrelevant. We're on course with everyone else on that score. What more would you like us to do?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Rynaldo


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    Is inciting hatred a crime?

    Double jabbed / triple jabbed / unjabbed whatever.

    Is this the society we are going to manipulated into? Will have to see if I fit under the floorboards if the trajectory of this aggression continues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭bloopy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    The headline should be, Public mood turns against the Government



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