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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    The " snowflakes " are surely the ones so terrified, they insist on masking five year olds ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,299 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I said might.

    kids are intelligent and adaptable, more so than many adults.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Even with the restrictions they have a better lifestyle thn their age group fifty years ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    It's up to everyone how to handle this themselves but it's the incessant whingeing that's sickening.

    Sunday Indo claimed this morning that there was a level of defiance in the antivaxxers which i have noticed too which solves nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,936 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    The incessant whinging leaving some of the hard core anti vaxers aside stems from people just been fed up of the constant chopping ,changing mixed messages ,dithering from govt and nephet ….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Nonsense. You would have had a much better youth than they are facing into today.

    No major upheavels on your social life and real opportunities to work for.

    There might be more money floating around today but it doesn't bring happiness and it most definitely does not lead to our inbuilt desire for social contact being met.

    Anyone under 40 will be facing into tough times where they will be less well off than their parents. Opportunities will be much more limited, including emigration. All the while being saddled with the enormous burden of paying for the excesses of spending and economic destruction of covid.

    All to protect snowflakes like yourself...



  • Posts: 654 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Spoke with a neighbour last monday she was tidying up her garden went to play her golf on Tuesday her sister called from Tipperary tuesday evening the woman that called had a cough it was covid spread it to her sister presently we are digging her grave for her funeral monday in her late sixties. Ignorance denial is a big problem in this pandemic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,035 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Mahoney_j I have seen you post this before about alleged chopping and changing and mixed messages. With a very long time now the message has been to minimise your interactions with others as much as possible, wear a mask when in public and where there is a risk of contracting the virus and wash your hands.

    As the case numbers go up and down, the rate at which you will hear the above advice goes up and down too.

    Any other changes that are made are as a consequence of where we are with the case numbers at a point in time and therefore could easily be predicted well in advance.

    The faux outrage then when other measures are introduced is getting too predictable at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    So ,just to get this correct;

    The lady in question presumably caught the covid on Tuesday evening from her sister and died Friday/Saturday if being buried on Monday .

    You should really contact the Dept. of Health as something that lethal within 4 days or less is the sort of covid that had people collapsing on the street in China early 2020 according to social media .Could be a whole new strain .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    It usually takes 10 -14 days from contact to even get it, first opinions from BBC is Omicron has a shorter period from infection and infectioness than Delta but I doubt if it's that quick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,936 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    If u were the owner of a pub /restaurant /hotel hairdresser /Gym etc or a worker in that sector you’d have a different opinion …..throw in nephet going on solo runs ….likes of Donnelly and Leo giving info and then backtracking …remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve …vaccination of the elderly and then gen population been our way out …..schools are safe and Covid dosnt affect under 12s and on and on and on

    talking to my brother in Melbourne earlier ….Covid out there is in the back round out there when it comes to media and what people fill there day ….here wherever u turn its in your face govt ,nephet thru there actions have fed this and the disillusionment .I and majority of country have done everything we’ve been asked to curtail this and yet normality or anything close to it is further away than it was last January



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Just picking this post as an example.


    I don't doubt for a second that what you post isn't the case.


    A person's opinion is informed by their experience. In this case, the circle of people you move in.

    Years ago, I didn't care about the stage of the education system or the health system when elections came around. Then my lads went through the education system and, now, my parents and soon myself will be affected by health care....

    Personally, I know of people who died or nearly died of Covid.

    What I found very interesting about that article was how similar the experience in the UK was to our statistics here (50% of beds taken by 5% of the population, etc.) and that was from the point of view of someone at the coal face.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Something doesnt fully add up though. The uks not fully vaxxed population is twice the size per capita as here.

    If it was as simple as get everyone done surely it should be higher at maybe 80% unvaxxed in icu.

    There must be a few very small minorities who have very high risk factors (whether known or unknown) while vaccinating the more average person has little effect on the end icu figure.

    It doesn't make much sense otherwise unless there are factors such as people in icu for an extended period of time who predated vaccine, fiddling dates of the period discussed (hse did like to talk about icu admissions in the under 50s since june, when the majority would not have been eligible for a large part of the period) to suit the headline figure, or maybe unvaxxed patients undergo a more rigourous testing procedure for covid...

    Who knows...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Is all that just a nice way of saying "shur you are only a young lad who knows nothing " ?

    Thanks all the same but not exactly true unfortunately .

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,299 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Our society is gone to fcuk if people are happier to risk killing an 85yo rather than ask their 9yo wear a simple harmless mask.

    what if the 85yo only has a year to live, what if they had 5 or 10 years to live. Denying them that chance so your kid isn’t asked to wear a mask or that you can slobber with your mates without restrictions is so selfish it’s disgusting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,521 ✭✭✭tanko


    Is this there no end to this type of hysterical scaremongering slobbering, all the nine year olds in the country wearing masks 24/7 isn’t going to make a damn bit of difference to whether any 85 year lives or dies. The disgusting selfish people are the ones who think they have the right to take away the health, freedoms, civil liberties and livelihoods of others for no good reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,299 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    The “no good reason” is to minimise spread of a virus that is circulating at present. It’s effect on old and vulnerable people is well known.

    nobody is saying a 9yo has to wear a mask 24/7, that’s just auld pub talk from idiots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,521 ✭✭✭tanko


    More bullcrap, this virus is going to be around forever just like colds and flu, lockdowns and restrictions are a waste of time. Old and and vulnerable people are all vaccinated now, enough is enough, it time to move on. You accusing anyone of being an idiot is bloody hilarious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,299 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    the likelihood is in time mutations will become more benign, it’s interesting to see however in the meantime how many in society just care about themselves rather than the wider community particularly the elderly and vulnerable who need our effort to protect them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Zero reason to think that. What is much more likely is everybody gets some form of broad based natural immunity or dies. Making it less of a problem overtime if we stop trying to restrict spread so much



  • Posts: 654 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We leave that to the HSE they have been out to the house but giving my opinion i am shocked like all her neighbours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Almost anything will finish off someone that old


    It's about proportionality, you can't prioritise the elderly to an overwhelming degree ,we have very much tended to doing that while ignoring the youth in this country ,it has consequences



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Ah so its your opinion that she died from Covid .Was kinda wondering allright as its unlikely any post mortem would have been carried out and the results known that quick .Hysteria can be contagious so be very careful and wear your mask at all times .



  • Posts: 654 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where does it say that it was my opinion that she died from covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    I am not really interested in getting into a to and fro with you nor am I stupid enough to actually give my honest opinion on your original post .

    You posted it on a thread concerning covid and unless my comprehension and grasp of English as she is written is poor then what else could anyone infer from it ?

    As I said, hysteria is contagious.



  • Posts: 654 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My god we are getting low with personnel remarks , the best part of you..<mod snip>


    Mod: This level of repartee is grossly unnecessary and isn't going to be tolerated. It says more about the poster than the person targeted!

    Post edited by greysides on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream





  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Mod

    Fred Daly, take a 48 hour break from this thread!


    The rest of you who are getting aggitated, either do the same or cut out the personal stuff!

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Mod: Fred Daly is banned from this forum for one month for repeating the comment he was warned for.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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